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Nutsin wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 23:54goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 23:49Nutsin wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 23:43Although a little bit of Fed help never hurt anyone, they lowered interest rates enough when Biden was in office. Trumps getting it done with little or no help. Oh and jobs lost you mentioned are Amazon and Walmart, CO’s that import cheap shit from China, expected really when you are pulling manufacturing away from them and bringing it home. Perhaps we will start to see more local family owned businesses instead of the big corps cornering the market to paid the pockets of Bezos and the like.
America first baby!
Bankruptcy of American companies went up 11% last year. The most in 15 years.
amazon & Walmart aren’t cutting manufacturing jobs, these are office jobs being lost. American workers in the 100s of thousands.I never said they were cutting manufacturing jobs. What are you talking about. The manufacturing jobs being lost are in China, there’s a new world order for commerce, the days of importing everything into America are over, we will be exporting a lot more now we have more open markets, so there will be growing and adjustment pains felt in some sectors, strength in others. To be expected.
SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026, 01:46 Mods.
Can we have an American politics thread please, so that Nutsin and Goose can bicker endlessly and the rest of us can talk about the country where we actually live?
SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑07 Feb 2026, 01:46 Mods.
Can we have an American politics thread please, so that Nutsin and Goose can bicker endlessly and the rest of us can talk about the country where we actually live?
goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 23:49Nutsin wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 23:43Although a little bit of Fed help never hurt anyone, they lowered interest rates enough when Biden was in office. Trumps getting it done with little or no help. Oh and jobs lost you mentioned are Amazon and Walmart, CO’s that import cheap shit from China, expected really when you are pulling manufacturing away from them and bringing it home. Perhaps we will start to see more local family owned businesses instead of the big corps cornering the market to paid the pockets of Bezos and the like.
America first baby!
Bankruptcy of American companies went up 11% last year. The most in 15 years.
amazon & Walmart aren’t cutting manufacturing jobs, these are office jobs being lost. American workers in the 100s of thousands.
goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 23:44Nutsin wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 23:37goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 23:16It’s a second member of the fed raising the alarm about jobs. Two of the twelve saying the same things on the same day.
You sighted government jobs, but as I’ve shown you those are private sector jobs being cut. The biggest since 2009.
Job numbers, inflation, both stone cold facts.
2 out of 12 is worth mentioning.The numbers are widely reported. Two gave interviews today and both called out the weakening jobs market.
Jobs are worth mentioning above everything else, last year was worse than 2009. The data from January is really poor.
Nutsin wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 23:43Nutsin wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 23:37goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 23:16It’s a second member of the fed raising the alarm about jobs. Two of the twelve saying the same things on the same day.
You sighted government jobs, but as I’ve shown you those are private sector jobs being cut. The biggest since 2009.
Job numbers, inflation, both stone cold facts.
2 out of 12 is worth mentioning.Although a little bit of Fed help never hurt anyone, they lowered interest rates enough when Biden was in office. Trumps getting it done with little or no help. Oh and jobs lost you mentioned are Amazon and Walmart, CO’s that import cheap shit from China, expected really when you are pulling manufacturing away from them and bringing it home. Perhaps we will start to see more local family owned businesses instead of the big corps cornering the market to paid the pockets of Bezos and the like.
America first baby!
Nutsin wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 23:37goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 23:16Nutsin wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 23:10Reuters and San Fran Fed eh? Is that where you got Stagflation from?
Didn’t mention wage growth or Cap Ex being through the roof or 5.3% GDP, Jobs for US Citizens on the rise?
Just snippets to meet their usual bullshit narrative. According to these idiots we should have inflation in double digits because of Tarriffs, how did that work out?
Give it up son, you’re stuck on stupid.It’s a second member of the fed raising the alarm about jobs. Two of the twelve saying the same things on the same day.
You sighted government jobs, but as I’ve shown you those are private sector jobs being cut. The biggest since 2009.
Job numbers, inflation, both stone cold facts.
2 out of 12 is worth mentioning.
Nutsin wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 23:37goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 23:16Nutsin wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 23:10Reuters and San Fran Fed eh? Is that where you got Stagflation from?
Didn’t mention wage growth or Cap Ex being through the roof or 5.3% GDP, Jobs for US Citizens on the rise?
Just snippets to meet their usual bullshit narrative. According to these idiots we should have inflation in double digits because of Tarriffs, how did that work out?
Give it up son, you’re stuck on stupid.It’s a second member of the fed raising the alarm about jobs. Two of the twelve saying the same things on the same day.
You sighted government jobs, but as I’ve shown you those are private sector jobs being cut. The biggest since 2009.
Job numbers, inflation, both stone cold facts.
2 out of 12 is worth mentioning.
goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 23:16Nutsin wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 23:10goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 22:44Feb 6 (Reuters) - San Francisco Federal Reserve President Mary Daly on Friday said she thinks one or two more interest rate cuts may be needed to counteract weakness in the labor market, where workers are "walking a knife's edge" with higher prices eating into their wages and scarce opportunities for new jobs.
Elsewhere- Layoffs surged sharply in January — over 108,000 job cuts announced, the highest for any January since 2009, with major contributions from transportation (UPS), tech (Amazon), healthcare, and other sectors.
inflation isn’t down
the job market is weak
Stock market growth driven by a handful of companies is not indicative of a thriving economy.Reuters and San Fran Fed eh? Is that where you got Stagflation from?
Didn’t mention wage growth or Cap Ex being through the roof or 5.3% GDP, Jobs for US Citizens on the rise?
Just snippets to meet their usual bullshit narrative. According to these idiots we should have inflation in double digits because of Tarriffs, how did that work out?
Give it up son, you’re stuck on stupid.It’s a second member of the fed raising the alarm about jobs. Two of the twelve saying the same things on the same day.
You sighted government jobs, but as I’ve shown you those are private sector jobs being cut. The biggest since 2009.
Job numbers, inflation, both stone cold facts.
Nutsin wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 23:10goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 22:44Nutsin wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 22:33Nonsense inflation numbers are down. Fed has a dual mandate, price stability (Inflation) and Jobs. If Jobs were as bad as you say then we wouldn’t have a stock market as hot as it is and the Fed would act. A lot of Jobs lost were Gov’t jobs which hurt the private sector. Trump could easily re-hire the Gov’t jobs to get the numbers up but that’s Gov’t bloat that we don’t want or need. Private sector Jobs follow growth, 5.3% GDP is growth, jobs come next and Wall st knows it.Feb 6 (Reuters) - San Francisco Federal Reserve President Mary Daly on Friday said she thinks one or two more interest rate cuts may be needed to counteract weakness in the labor market, where workers are "walking a knife's edge" with higher prices eating into their wages and scarce opportunities for new jobs.
Elsewhere- Layoffs surged sharply in January — over 108,000 job cuts announced, the highest for any January since 2009, with major contributions from transportation (UPS), tech (Amazon), healthcare, and other sectors.
inflation isn’t down
the job market is weak
Stock market growth driven by a handful of companies is not indicative of a thriving economy.Reuters and San Fran Fed eh? Is that where you got Stagflation from?
Didn’t mention wage growth or Cap Ex being through the roof or 5.3% GDP, Jobs for US Citizens on the rise?
Just snippets to meet their usual bullshit narrative. According to these idiots we should have inflation in double digits because of Tarriffs, how did that work out?
Give it up son, you’re stuck on stupid.
goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 22:44Nutsin wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 22:33Nonsense inflation numbers are down. Fed has a dual mandate, price stability (Inflation) and Jobs. If Jobs were as bad as you say then we wouldn’t have a stock market as hot as it is and the Fed would act. A lot of Jobs lost were Gov’t jobs which hurt the private sector. Trump could easily re-hire the Gov’t jobs to get the numbers up but that’s Gov’t bloat that we don’t want or need. Private sector Jobs follow growth, 5.3% GDP is growth, jobs come next and Wall st knows it.Feb 6 (Reuters) - San Francisco Federal Reserve President Mary Daly on Friday said she thinks one or two more interest rate cuts may be needed to counteract weakness in the labor market, where workers are "walking a knife's edge" with higher prices eating into their wages and scarce opportunities for new jobs.
Elsewhere- Layoffs surged sharply in January — over 108,000 job cuts announced, the highest for any January since 2009, with major contributions from transportation (UPS), tech (Amazon), healthcare, and other sectors.
inflation isn’t down
the job market is weak
Stock market growth driven by a handful of companies is not indicative of a thriving economy.
Nutsin wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 22:33Nonsense inflation numbers are down. Fed has a dual mandate, price stability (Inflation) and Jobs. If Jobs were as bad as you say then we wouldn’t have a stock market as hot as it is and the Fed would act. A lot of Jobs lost were Gov’t jobs which hurt the private sector. Trump could easily re-hire the Gov’t jobs to get the numbers up but that’s Gov’t bloat that we don’t want or need. Private sector Jobs follow growth, 5.3% GDP is growth, jobs come next and Wall st knows it.
Nutsin wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 22:04Yeh it’s so bad the Fed decided not to lower rates