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Trump: Smart Cookie or Orange Oaf?

Smart Cookie
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Seems like the main politics thread is becoming a Yankee-Doodle Trump-fest, so maybe scope here to split them out.

Will see if this one gains any traction ..if it does will move over a few of the million posts from our two protagonists from the other thread.

Yee-haaa!
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More good news !

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goose wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 19:09 Inflation will be above 2% and their wages are growing 1%.
unless inflation is negative they will continue to struggle.

their debt interest is far higher than any growth in real income.
ok then.
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Inflation will be above 2% and their wages are growing 1%.
unless inflation is negative they will continue to struggle.

their debt interest is far higher than any growth in real income.
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goose wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 18:39 You should tell that to the bottom 70% of Americans who have reduced savings, higher debt and are struggling to live.

and saw real wage growth of 1%.
Alright keep looking backwards then....
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You should tell that to the bottom 70% of Americans who have reduced savings, higher debt and are struggling to live.

and saw real wage growth of 1%.
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Another is the (COT) commitment of traders report it measures open interest in the futures market. Tells you where the big money is at. 
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Another indicator is demand for MBS market, Demand is up suggesting lower rates for the US 10 yr.
Why does this matter, The 10 year is the proxy for the mortgage rates because the MBS market tracks the 10 year. The MBS market has higher risk than the bond market so has higher yields, so it is an indicator of risk on. People are now looking for yield not security. Meaning Investors see lower rates ahead in Bonds and growth in the economy.




 
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Nutsin wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 18:00
goose wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 17:50
Nutsin wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 17:48
Don't forget Rent.....   The important stuff shows up in the headline, get it right.
I showed you the YoY growth for ‘shelter’
+3% YoY
And I showed you that the current reports show rents dropping and more importantly they are expected to continue to drop. As I keep trying to explain to a simpleton, it's all about what lies ahead. When are you gonna catch a clue?
 
 
So if the right now doesn’t count, then why did you post it?  When the data looks good you’re happy to post it, but when the data gets shared in detail it suddenly doesn’t matter because it doesn’t fit your narrative.

You either believe the data or you don’t.
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Let me help you out a little because you obviously have no idea what data matters.

Here is a key component for market strategists. Check out the chart.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/T5YIFR

 
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goose wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 17:50
Nutsin wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 17:48
goose wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 17:40
The drag is gas & used cars. Everything else, the real important day to day stuff I laid out for you.
Don't forget Rent.....   The important stuff shows up in the headline, get it right.
I showed you the YoY growth for ‘shelter’
+3% YoY
And I showed you that the current reports show rents dropping and more importantly they are expected to continue to drop. As I keep trying to explain to a simpleton, it's all about what lies ahead. When are you gonna catch a clue?
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Nutsin wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 17:48
goose wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 17:40
Nutsin wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 17:15
Are these the numbers you are so excited about?

The drag is gas & used cars. Everything else, the real important day to day stuff I laid out for you.
Don't forget Rent.....   The important stuff shows up in the headline, get it right.
I showed you the YoY growth for ‘shelter’
+3% YoY
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goose wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 17:40
Nutsin wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 17:15
Nutsin wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 17:04
I prefer to listen to Steve Liesman, I find you have no credibility in such matters.

Hope that helps!   
Are these the numbers you are so excited about?

The drag is gas & used cars. Everything else, the real important day to day stuff I laid out for you.
Don't forget Rent.....   The important stuff shows up in the headline, get it right.
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Nutsin wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 17:15
Nutsin wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 17:04
goose wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 15:47
you asked about the long game.
you do this every time you dont have an answer for stuff - just talk around in circles.

the inflation numbers are there for you to read, i gave you the detail.
I prefer to listen to Steve Liesman, I find you have no credibility in such matters.

Hope that helps!   
Are these the numbers you are so excited about?

The drag is gas & used cars. Everything else, the real important day to day stuff I laid out for you.
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Nutsin wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 17:20 Don't forget to click on the "show more" link in the post below.

Some real good news in there.
And here's the cherry on top, Perhaps you and Millie vanilli can address this lil nugget?

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Don't forget to click on the "show more" link in the post below.

Some real good news in there.
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Nutsin wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 17:04
goose wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 15:47
Nutsin wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 15:43
Oh you're talking about debt again.....Moved on from Stagflation, moving away from High inflation, moving away from Job numbers, now we are on to debt........Got it.
you asked about the long game.
you do this every time you dont have an answer for stuff - just talk around in circles.

the inflation numbers are there for you to read, i gave you the detail.
I prefer to listen to Steve Liesman, I find you have no credibility in such matters.

Hope that helps!   
Are these the numbers you are so excited about?

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Nutsin wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 17:04
goose wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 15:47
Nutsin wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 15:43
Oh you're talking about debt again.....Moved on from Stagflation, moving away from High inflation, moving away from Job numbers, now we are on to debt........Got it.
you asked about the long game.
you do this every time you dont have an answer for stuff - just talk around in circles.

the inflation numbers are there for you to read, i gave you the detail.
I prefer to listen to Steve Liesman, I find you have no credibility in such matters.

Hope that helps!   
So you’re happy to quote the topline number but you don’t want to listen to the actual numbers that are behind it?
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goose wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 15:47
Nutsin wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 15:43
goose wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 15:35
oh so the data is wrong now? funny that.

heres the long game according to your CBO.
have a look at the graphs about debt.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/61882#: ... er%20years.
Oh you're talking about debt again.....Moved on from Stagflation, moving away from High inflation, moving away from Job numbers, now we are on to debt........Got it.
you asked about the long game.
you do this every time you dont have an answer for stuff - just talk around in circles.

the inflation numbers are there for you to read, i gave you the detail.
I prefer to listen to Steve Liesman, I find you have no credibility in such matters.

Hope that helps!   
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Nutsin wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 15:43
goose wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 15:35
Nutsin wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 15:33
If you listened to Steve Liesman you would hear him say that rents dropped. As I have been saying all along, look ahead, Give it time, You're suppose to be playing the long game remember?
oh so the data is wrong now? funny that.

heres the long game according to your CBO.
have a look at the graphs about debt.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/61882#: ... er%20years.
Oh you're talking about debt again.....Moved on from Stagflation, moving away from High inflation, moving away from Job numbers, now we are on to debt........Got it.
you asked about the long game.
you do this every time you dont have an answer for stuff - just talk around in circles.

the inflation numbers are there for you to read, i gave you the detail.
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goose wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 15:35
Nutsin wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 15:33
goose wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 15:09 i'll lay it out for you - the headline is driven by gasoline and used cars.
these are YoY figures:

elctricity +6.3%
food at home +2%
food away from home +4.0%
shelter +3.0%
medical care services +3.9%
househild furnishings +3.9%
If you listened to Steve Liesman you would hear him say that rents dropped. As I have been saying all along, look ahead, Give it time, You're suppose to be playing the long game remember?
oh so the data is wrong now? funny that.

heres the long game according to your CBO.
have a look at the graphs about debt.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/61882#: ... er%20years.
Oh you're talking about debt again.....Moved on from Stagflation, moving away from High inflation, moving away from Job numbers, now we are on to debt........Got it.
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Nutsin wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 15:33
goose wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 15:09 i'll lay it out for you - the headline is driven by gasoline and used cars.
these are YoY figures:

elctricity +6.3%
food at home +2%
food away from home +4.0%
shelter +3.0%
medical care services +3.9%
househild furnishings +3.9%
If you listened to Steve Liesman you would hear him say that rents dropped. As I have been saying all along, look ahead, Give it time, You're suppose to be playing the long game remember?
oh so the data is wrong now? funny that.

heres the long game according to your CBO.
have a look at the graphs about debt.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/61882#: ... er%20years.
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goose wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 15:09 i'll lay it out for you - the headline is driven by gasoline and used cars.
these are YoY figures:

elctricity +6.3%
food at home +2%
food away from home +4.0%
shelter +3.0%
medical care services +3.9%
househild furnishings +3.9%
If you listened to Steve Liesman you would hear him say that rents dropped. As I have been saying all along, look ahead, Give it time, You're suppose to be playing the long game remember?
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Nutsin wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 15:06 Here you go Goose, If you insist on looking backwards......



tell people who are struggling to pay bills and eat that they should look forward.

even if you look forward it never gets to the target of 2%. given that real wages grew 1% what do you think that means for people?
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