The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[twoleftfeet]

Apologising for having an opinion. Madness.

Even worse considering what he said was right. 

[Mike Oxsaw]

The nation needs far more Radcliffisms - one per day, every day, for every illegal immigrant arriving in the UK, and an extra one for every illegal who commits a crime or misdemeanour of any sort whilst awaiting being kicked out and back to his nation of birth and helping solve his own country's problems.

The UK, as a people and a nation are compassionate, but we're not a fucking magic money tree.

[Eerie Decent]

It is absolutely fucking ludicrous what he is being accused of, for simply stating facts.

Two Tier has far more pressing matters to be dealing with than worrying about someone's (correct) opinion. Sort your own fucking party out for a start.

[goose]

he has now apologised

:"I am sorry that my choice of language has offended some people in the UK and Europe and caused concern but it is important to raise the issue of controlled and well-managed immigration that supports economic growth.

"My comments were made while answering questions about UK policy at the European Industry Summit in Antwerp, where I was discussing the importance of economic growth, jobs, skills and manufacturing in the UK.

"My intention was to stress that governments must manage migration alongside investment in skills, industry and jobs so that long-term prosperity is shared by everyone. It is critical that we maintain an open debate on the challenges facing the UK."

[Eerie Decent]

it's a shame that the one sentence in that interview has over shadowed the entire thing. He actually makes some really important points:

"You can't have an economy with nine million people on benefits and huge levels of immigrants coming in," 

"the population of the UK was 58 million in 2020, now it's 70 million. That's 12 million people."

9.9m of working aged people on some form of benefits. That is almost 23% of the working age population.
at a cost of £330bn every year.

12m extra people who will need to use an already strained infrastructure.


absolute madness.

 

 

He is, of course, absolutely spot on. Unfortunately, you get pricks in the media, and in general, that don't focus on the content of what is said, they just sensationalise it and claim something is racist, and the conversation is then not allowed to be had. Shut it down with an easy accusation, like what the left have tried with Farage.

Problem for them is, the tide is turning. Everyone has had enough, and people are no longer buying that fucking bollocks. And every situation like this, where the left are scared to put a rational argument forward to counter what has actually been said (mainly because there isn't one) just strengthens the resolve.

[Nutsin]

Lol, all but 6 of his Man Utd squad are these colonising immigrants he hates so much. Presumably he's going back up his motor mouth by sacking them all off and giving a load of young British players a chance, in their next match?

You're a proper idiot.

He is a proper idiot but there are way too many that think like this idiot. Starmer being one of them. Look at the reaction to what he said. It’s not normal and should not be tolerated. More people need to stand up and be counted.
Although his point is an obvious real concern it is nowhere near as outrageous as what we are learning from Rupert Lowe’s inquiry. The thought of one of our own, a little British girl, white or black being carted off to Pakistan or god knows where to be a sex slave or even worst for organ harvesting should be the game changer.

That must change the narrative from all this Racist bollocks. We have to start to look out for our own just like the fucking Muslims do. Only we won’t be grabbing their kids to use as sex slaves or organ donors because we’re  not fucking evil. Time to call a soade a spade and stand up to these sick evil cunts. It’s the right thing to do. 

[Mike Oxsaw]

Mike... followers of Islam have proven self-interest when it comes to the GE, look how the Palestine support network got Muslim MP's voted in... there is a conflict of interest where the Nation will vote for Party that best suits their views/concerns whilst Muslims will vote for the local-muslim who will look after their agenda regarding all things Islam as proven in the last GE.

sometimes it's like the 'blind leading the blind' at the expense of the nation.

 

 

So, effectively, La crème de la crème, elicited from the top UK universities via the annual milk round,  into British politics and the Civil Service have been blind-sided by a bunch of third-world immigrant , self-centred ignoramuses.

Sounds typical,

[goose]

it's a shame that the one sentence in that interview has over shadowed the entire thing. He actually makes some really important points:

"You can't have an economy with nine million people on benefits and huge levels of immigrants coming in," 

"the population of the UK was 58 million in 2020, now it's 70 million. That's 12 million people."

9.9m of working aged people on some form of benefits. That is almost 23% of the working age population.
at a cost of £330bn every year.

12m extra people who will need to use an already strained infrastructure.


absolute madness.

[Eerie Decent]

Lol, all but 6 of his Man Utd squad are these colonising immigrants he hates so much. Presumably he's going back up his motor mouth by sacking them all off and giving a load of young British players a chance, in their next match?

You're a proper idiot.

[Massive Attack]

More like him need to come out and say the change of direction is needed. 

As I hoped. Well done, Bannatyne..


https://www.gbnews.com/celebrity/duncan ... lonisation

[OK_Guy]

Mike... followers of Islam have proven self-interest when it comes to the GE, look how the Palestine support network got Muslim MP's voted in... there is a conflict of interest where the Nation will vote for Party that best suits their views/concerns whilst Muslims will vote for the local-muslim who will look after their agenda regarding all things Islam as proven in the last GE.

sometimes it's like the 'blind leading the blind' at the expense of the nation.

[Mike Oxsaw]

Both Labour & Conservatives (along with their media puppies) are shit scared of Reform simply because Reform appear to be responding to what the public actually want rather than telling them what they should want/are going to get anyway.

To that aim I would not be surprised if the traditional parties have hatched a plan (during a round of golf)  to simply irritate one another rather than go traditional full-on, hoping that that will fool the public into voting Reform.

Such a plan would include divvying up the nation between themselves after one of them steam back into power on the back of the state preventing - at their behest -  Reform from invoking a single policy should they get elected.

No one can claim they follow Reform because their fathers, and their fathers, and their father's father's fathers followed them (unlike the reds & the blues), so, whatever drives them to follow Reform is not historically driven or influenced.

Successive traditional parties have opened up the country to unfettered immigration  (legal, simply tolerated for political expediency & illegal) in the hope that enough of those coming in would show their gratitude by voting for whoever made the rules.

Reality has shown that very few - if any - actually give enough of a fuck to get involved in UK politics at any level; just so long as the benefits/gig-economy payments keep pouring in, there's no incentive to do anything other than the bare minimum needed to get by.

The traditional parties really do need to be forced into one more term to leave nobody in any doubt for who's benefit they are working. Here's a tiny crumb of a clue: it's not ours.

[Massive Attack]

It's all in hand with Reforms meteoric rise from a standing still start not so long ago. Couple that with a fuck off sized march back in September down the corridors of power down at Westminster, as well as weekly local protests against illegal migrant hotels, then it's clear the public have woken up and serious change is coming. We couldn't be pushing back enough with all the protests continually happening and voting intentions now.

You'd also be surprised how many actually ignore the BBC/ITV/C4, Sky News and daily rags of this world to see what's really going on. Why do you think Starmer has tried to block local elections, because he's shit scared of the depth of anger amongst the British public trying to suppress us but it just won't work.

[Nutsin]

I think 10+ back-to-back posts is some kind of cry for help.

No, I had 10 mins so sent what I thought was relevant. Nothing more, nothing less.

Just so happens Rupert is the only one doing Gods work and thought you might want to know, seeing as it’s kind of a big deal.

As for the other thread, Trumps killing it in so many ways that there is just too many good news stories to ignore. I just can’t help myself.

It's honestly not needed. We do see what is going on, we wint all in the dark and ignorant to the situation. The change is coming and Reforms rise is clearly evidence of that. Don't underestimate the general public now the lies and corruption have already started to be exposed. 

That’s fair enough, I just find it hard to believe that all the real news is getting out there based on some of the ignorant shit I read on here. This Ratcliffe story is an example of just how brainwashed people are out there. It’s hard to comprehend.

At first I thought it was just the usual posters on a wind up but I realized that it wasn’t a wind up and by digging I’ve realized there’s way too many that think the same way. The only people you can criticize is white people and it’s the mainly the white fuckwits who say that.

If I’m an Islamist I’d be laughing my bollocks off.

At what point do you push back?  It’s fucking mental!

were there any riots about trial without Jury? Are people just gonna accept that? Genuine question.

[Massive Attack]

I think 10+ back-to-back posts is some kind of cry for help.

No, I had 10 mins so sent what I thought was relevant. Nothing more, nothing less.

Just so happens Rupert is the only one doing Gods work and thought you might want to know, seeing as it’s kind of a big deal.

As for the other thread, Trumps killing it in so many ways that there is just too many good news stories to ignore. I just can’t help myself.

It's honestly not needed. We do see what is going on, we wint all in the dark and ignorant to the situation. The change is coming and Reforms rise is clearly evidence of that. Don't underestimate the general public now the lies and corruption have already started to be exposed. 

[Massive Attack]

Ratcliffe likely misspoke when quoting the numbers of around 59 Million population in 2020, probably meaning to say 2000. Of course the Media and the Left will latch on to that to try to undermine his point. For him to clarify if asked again. That said, his wider point is right. The population growth has got way out of hand since the turn of the Millennium and has caused serious incohesion up and down the Country - typified by the Rape Grooming Scandal. He needs to be brave and own what he generally said as home truths need to be stated if we are to recover as a Country. 

The worst thing he could do now is to be guilt tripped in to going back on it and apologise when the Country does need to get back on track with more sustainable levels of immigration both legally and illegally not just for the sake of the Economy but also for social cohesion which has broken down. More like him need to come out and say the change of direction is needed. 

[Nutsin]

Whatever you do, don’t you dare try and protect the kids, born or unborn, you’ll feel the wrath of HM Gov’t if you do.

[Nutsin]

Jim Radcliffe has always struck me as a bit of a cսnt.

Until today.

Spot on Sir Jim

The country needs more like him.

[twoleftfeet]

Jim Radcliffe has always struck me as a bit of a cսnt.

Until today.

Spot on Sir Jim

[Nutsin]

This has to be a joke!

So the mussies can drop and pray anywhere they want any time but you can’t silently pray even if you are in your house if it is close to an abortion clinic. Or outside if you are close to one?


And you call the Yanks stupid! 

FMOB! What have you become? 

[Nutsin]

This has to be a joke!

[OK_Guy]

all Radcliff has done is point to the 'elephant in the room' which is immigration.

now they're trying to paint him as a racist, Starmer/Muslin groups etc., Labour needs the immigrant vote to stay in power, who'd of thought, huh.

expect immigration to hit record numbers this year... one out, ten in.

[Nutsin]

All completely normal behaviour……….

What you talking about Grooming Gangs?

[goose]

All completely normal behaviour……….

[Nutsin]

I think 10+ back-to-back posts is some kind of cry for help.

No, I had 10 mins so sent what I thought was relevant. Nothing more, nothing less.

Just so happens Rupert is the only one doing Gods work and thought you might want to know, seeing as it’s kind of a big deal.

As for the other thread, Trumps killing it in so many ways that there is just too many good news stories to ignore. I just can’t help myself.