US Politics Thread

[stubbo-admin]

Seems like the main politics thread is becoming a Yankee-Doodle Trump-fest, so maybe scope here to split them out.

Will see if this one gains any traction ..if it does will move over a few of the million posts from our two protagonists from the other thread.

Yee-haaa!

[goose]

You and l don't know who pays most tax between us and l don't care,actually l hope you do pay more as clearly hurts you
You live here but have shown many occasions on here cheering on Eyeties in Winter sports,Rugby etc...looking forward to world cup?...opps sorry 
Been Italy many times
Yes going back to Ireland Donegal actually on hiking trip in June then returning for week later golf trip for 4 days
Avoiding Italy easy decision 

Hiking??!!! You absolute melt.

Why would I not cheer on my country you div? It’s not hard to understand.

Where was you born???
Hope the question isn't too difficult 
Would you prefer sports question? 
Like how do you think Italy will do in world cup?...opps sorry 

You do realise we still have a play-off to play you div. Lets not start talking about winning stuff eh??

A child born in Germany to British parents isn't German.
If your Cambodian girlfriend drops a child when you go hiking in Ireland it doesnt make the baby Irish.
You're as thich as mince joyo son.

[XKhammer]

Bless you joyo, feeling a little bit salty?

I contribute way more tax to the uk than you do son.
You can’t afford to go to Italy son, you’ve got your annual camping trip to Ireland to look forward to.

You and l don't know who pays most tax between us and l don't care,actually l hope you do pay more as clearly hurts you
You live here but have shown many occasions on here cheering on Eyeties in Winter sports,Rugby etc...looking forward to world cup?...opps sorry 
Been Italy many times
Yes going back to Ireland Donegal actually on hiking trip in June then returning for week later golf trip for 4 days
Avoiding Italy easy decision 

Hiking??!!! You absolute melt.

Why would I not cheer on my country you div? It’s not hard to understand.

Where was you born???
Hope the question isn't too difficult 
Would you prefer sports question? 
Like how do you think Italy will do in world cup?...opps sorry 

[goose]

Correct he hates the UK and USA 
Really don't know why he lives here,but then again ive been to Italy so in part understandable but why bite the hand that feeds you?

Bless you joyo, feeling a little bit salty?

I contribute way more tax to the uk than you do son.
You can’t afford to go to Italy son, you’ve got your annual camping trip to Ireland to look forward to.

You and l don't know who pays most tax between us and l don't care,actually l hope you do pay more as clearly hurts you
You live here but have shown many occasions on here cheering on Eyeties in Winter sports,Rugby etc...looking forward to world cup?...opps sorry 
Been Italy many times
Yes going back to Ireland Donegal actually on hiking trip in June then returning for week later golf trip for 4 days
Avoiding Italy easy decision 

Hiking??!!! You absolute melt.

Why would I not cheer on my country you div? It’s not hard to understand.

[XKhammer]

You’re not all there fella!

Correct he hates the UK and USA 
Really don't know why he lives here,but then again ive been to Italy so in part understandable but why bite the hand that feeds you?

Bless you joyo, feeling a little bit salty?

I contribute way more tax to the uk than you do son.
You can’t afford to go to Italy son, you’ve got your annual camping trip to Ireland to look forward to.

You and l don't know who pays most tax between us and l don't care,actually l hope you do pay more as clearly hurts you
You live here but have shown many occasions on here cheering on Eyeties in Winter sports,Rugby etc...looking forward to world cup?...opps sorry 
Been Italy many times
Yes going back to Ireland Donegal actually on hiking trip in June then returning for week later golf trip for 4 days
Avoiding Italy easy decision 

[goose]

And they say Americans dont get irony.

maybe you could find something from FB to post? or continue your obsession with me by starting more threads about me?

your (late) midlife crisis is a joy to behold.

You’re not all there fella!

Correct he hates the UK and USA 
Really don't know why he lives here,but then again ive been to Italy so in part understandable but why bite the hand that feeds you?

Bless you joyo, feeling a little bit salty?

I contribute way more tax to the uk than you do son.
You can’t afford to go to Italy son, you’ve got your annual camping trip to Ireland to look forward to.

[XKhammer]

You’re not all there!

And they say Americans dont get irony.

maybe you could find something from FB to post? or continue your obsession with me by starting more threads about me?

your (late) midlife crisis is a joy to behold.

You’re not all there fella!

Correct he hates the UK and USA 
Really don't know why he lives here,but then again ive been to Italy so in part understandable but why bite the hand that feeds you?

[Nutsin]

Yeh its not like there is minimal growth + inlfation + zero jobs is there................ oh hang on.

We could always talk about your 5% GDP and 1% inflation "wins" again if you like? Or we could go back to babying you through the simple maths on GDP growth vs tax revenue?
Or we could talk about those american made iphones?
or how stopping illegal immigration will half class sizes and cut your car insurance?

You’re not all there!

And they say Americans dont get irony.

maybe you could find something from FB to post? or continue your obsession with me by starting more threads about me?

your (late) midlife crisis is a joy to behold.

You’re not all there fella!

[Hammer I am]

Nutsack, oddest bloke on here, that takes some doing.

Agreed, I can't even believe he was originally British, seems a stereotypical hard of thinking yank 

[Tomshardware]

Nutsack, oddest bloke on here, that takes some doing.

[goose]

Says the idiot who was yelling Stagflation.

Dumb guy!

Yeh its not like there is minimal growth + inlfation + zero jobs is there................ oh hang on.

We could always talk about your 5% GDP and 1% inflation "wins" again if you like? Or we could go back to babying you through the simple maths on GDP growth vs tax revenue?
Or we could talk about those american made iphones?
or how stopping illegal immigration will half class sizes and cut your car insurance?

You’re not all there!

And they say Americans dont get irony.

maybe you could find something from FB to post? or continue your obsession with me by starting more threads about me?

your (late) midlife crisis is a joy to behold.

[Nutsin]

Yeh all those facts are really stupid aren't they?
Give me some baseless assumptions on jobs/growth and a balloning national debt any day.

Says the idiot who was yelling Stagflation.

Dumb guy!

Yeh its not like there is minimal growth + inlfation + zero jobs is there................ oh hang on.

We could always talk about your 5% GDP and 1% inflation "wins" again if you like? Or we could go back to babying you through the simple maths on GDP growth vs tax revenue?
Or we could talk about those american made iphones?
or how stopping illegal immigration will half class sizes and cut your car insurance?

You’re not all there!

[goose]

Ok dumb guy!

Yeh all those facts are really stupid aren't they?
Give me some baseless assumptions on jobs/growth and a balloning national debt any day.

Says the idiot who was yelling Stagflation.

Dumb guy!

Yeh its not like there is minimal growth + inlfation + zero jobs is there................ oh hang on.

We could always talk about your 5% GDP and 1% inflation "wins" again if you like? Or we could go back to babying you through the simple maths on GDP growth vs tax revenue?
Or we could talk about those american made iphones?
or how stopping illegal immigration will half class sizes and cut your car insurance?

[Nutsin]

Yup introduced in April, since then inflation has gone up, the trade deficit for goods has grown wider (by a record amount) and manufacturing has shed jobs every month.
So it delivered the exact opposite of what was promised.
US factory orders fell back again in December by the way.

Tax cuts kick in for the richest while the poorest continue to struggle with inflation on essentials and electricity prices through the roof.


You could go on but its all pie in the sky while the actual facts continue to prove you and you rapist president wrong.

Ok dumb guy!

Yeh all those facts are really stupid aren't they?
Give me some baseless assumptions on jobs/growth and a balloning national debt any day.

Says the idiot who was yelling Stagflation.

Dumb guy!

[goose]

So what, Tariffs were introduced in April, give it a chance ffs. 

New trade agreements are still being processed and implemented, all are favorable to the USA by the way and all open new markets for American CO’s. You expect that data to show up in the 4th quarter ffs.

Tax cuts kick in this year.

New plants and factories haven’t been built yet.


I could go on but you’re too stupid to take serious.

You’re nothing but a silly troll.

Yup introduced in April, since then inflation has gone up, the trade deficit for goods has grown wider (by a record amount) and manufacturing has shed jobs every month.
So it delivered the exact opposite of what was promised.
US factory orders fell back again in December by the way.

Tax cuts kick in for the richest while the poorest continue to struggle with inflation on essentials and electricity prices through the roof.


You could go on but its all pie in the sky while the actual facts continue to prove you and you rapist president wrong.

Ok dumb guy!

Yeh all those facts are really stupid aren't they?
Give me some baseless assumptions on jobs/growth and a balloning national debt any day.

[Nutsin]

 

FY GDP was 2.2%.
Q4 is reflective of the latest trend, as is the flat retail sales in December.
As is the record amount of personal debt and highet defaul figures on that debt on over a decade.

The private sector is not creating jobs. You can hang on to one month of healthcare as much as you like.
One last time - zero job growth across 2025. An entire year with no jobs created.

Tariffs have been paid by American consumers and American companies. This is also a fact.
They have also done the opposite of what they were meant to do, the trade deficit on goods actually grew bigger. Oh and manufacturing shed jobs every month of the year from April onwards.

So what, Tariffs were introduced in April, give it a chance ffs. 

New trade agreements are still being processed and implemented, all are favorable to the USA by the way and all open new markets for American CO’s. You expect that data to show up in the 4th quarter ffs.

Tax cuts kick in this year.

New plants and factories haven’t been built yet.


I could go on but you’re too stupid to take serious.

You’re nothing but a silly troll.

Yup introduced in April, since then inflation has gone up, the trade deficit for goods has grown wider (by a record amount) and manufacturing has shed jobs every month.
So it delivered the exact opposite of what was promised.
US factory orders fell back again in December by the way.

Tax cuts kick in for the richest while the poorest continue to struggle with inflation on essentials and electricity prices through the roof.


You could go on but its all pie in the sky while the actual facts continue to prove you and you rapist president wrong.

Ok dumb guy!

[goose]

Actually Tariffs were announced in April, trade agreements are still being struck but many are recent. 

So it hasn’t been a year has it.

Again 1.4% includes a Gov’t shutdown and a collapse in Gov’t spending. Funny how you choose to not get into the weeds on that.

Q3 GDP was much higher. 

Jobs are going to the private sector and to Americans, now that Immigration is being tackled wages are going up and rents are starting to drop.

Id say that’s a good thing for the less fortunate wouldn’t you?


Go on I’ll let you have the last word I’m tired of hearing you repeat yourself.

 

FY GDP was 2.2%.
Q4 is reflective of the latest trend, as is the flat retail sales in December.
As is the record amount of personal debt and highet defaul figures on that debt on over a decade.

The private sector is not creating jobs. You can hang on to one month of healthcare as much as you like.
One last time - zero job growth across 2025. An entire year with no jobs created.

Tariffs have been paid by American consumers and American companies. This is also a fact.
They have also done the opposite of what they were meant to do, the trade deficit on goods actually grew bigger. Oh and manufacturing shed jobs every month of the year from April onwards.

So what, Tariffs were introduced in April, give it a chance ffs. 

New trade agreements are still being processed and implemented, all are favorable to the USA by the way and all open new markets for American CO’s. You expect that data to show up in the 4th quarter ffs.

Tax cuts kick in this year.

New plants and factories haven’t been built yet.


I could go on but you’re too stupid to take serious.

You’re nothing but a silly troll.

Yup introduced in April, since then inflation has gone up, the trade deficit for goods has grown wider (by a record amount) and manufacturing has shed jobs every month.
So it delivered the exact opposite of what was promised.
US factory orders fell back again in December by the way.

Tax cuts kick in for the richest while the poorest continue to struggle with inflation on essentials and electricity prices through the roof.


You could go on but its all pie in the sky while the actual facts continue to prove you and you rapist president wrong.

[Nutsin]

You've had a year and have only brought a huge backwards step in jobs and GDP. Inflation has gone up from day 1 of Trumps 2nd term.

You think zero jobs growth, 1.4% GDP and persistent inflation are silly arguments? The opinion polls do not agree with you.

Data centres will not deliver jobs, they will remove jobs. They will deliver growth for the top 10%.
Everyone else faces zero job growth and higher inflation thanks to tariffs. Ther tax cuts are not for them.

Actually Tariffs were announced in April, trade agreements are still being struck but many are recent. 

So it hasn’t been a year has it.

Again 1.4% includes a Gov’t shutdown and a collapse in Gov’t spending. Funny how you choose to not get into the weeds on that.

Q3 GDP was much higher. 

Jobs are going to the private sector and to Americans, now that Immigration is being tackled wages are going up and rents are starting to drop.

Id say that’s a good thing for the less fortunate wouldn’t you?


Go on I’ll let you have the last word I’m tired of hearing you repeat yourself.

 

FY GDP was 2.2%.
Q4 is reflective of the latest trend, as is the flat retail sales in December.
As is the record amount of personal debt and highet defaul figures on that debt on over a decade.

The private sector is not creating jobs. You can hang on to one month of healthcare as much as you like.
One last time - zero job growth across 2025. An entire year with no jobs created.

Tariffs have been paid by American consumers and American companies. This is also a fact.
They have also done the opposite of what they were meant to do, the trade deficit on goods actually grew bigger. Oh and manufacturing shed jobs every month of the year from April onwards.

So what, Tariffs were introduced in April, give it a chance ffs. 

New trade agreements are still being processed and implemented, all are favorable to the USA by the way and all open new markets for American CO’s. You expect that data to show up in the 4th quarter ffs.

Tax cuts kick in this year.

New plants and factories haven’t been built yet.


I could go on but you’re too stupid to take serious.

You’re nothing but a silly troll.

[goose]

It’s just a silly argument, you’re so desperate for a win.

Trumps tax cuts kick in this year, remember? 

It takes time to locate and build the plants and factories for new investment to filter through to new jobs, which has just started to show up in the data, right when you’d expect it to. Next you will start to see productivity, then comes the GDP data.

I think anyone with half a brain would understand that.


Instead of being an imbecile that thinks Trump has a magic wand why don’t you just accept that Trumps Tariffs did not bring Stagflation, the sky didn’t fall in and they have brought in huge sums of new investment to the US which is good for US jobs, Billions in Tariff revenue and some very good trade agreements for the US ?

This will bring growth and prosperity to the working class. We will no longer be an economy driven by Fed policy which favors the wealthy and leaves main st struggling and the US at the mercy of China.

You've had a year and have only brought a huge backwards step in jobs and GDP. Inflation has gone up from day 1 of Trumps 2nd term.

You think zero jobs growth, 1.4% GDP and persistent inflation are silly arguments? The opinion polls do not agree with you.

Data centres will not deliver jobs, they will remove jobs. They will deliver growth for the top 10%.
Everyone else faces zero job growth and higher inflation thanks to tariffs. Ther tax cuts are not for them.

Actually Tariffs were announced in April, trade agreements are still being struck but many are recent. 

So it hasn’t been a year has it.

Again 1.4% includes a Gov’t shutdown and a collapse in Gov’t spending. Funny how you choose to not get into the weeds on that.

Q3 GDP was much higher. 

Jobs are going to the private sector and to Americans, now that Immigration is being tackled wages are going up and rents are starting to drop.

Id say that’s a good thing for the less fortunate wouldn’t you?


Go on I’ll let you have the last word I’m tired of hearing you repeat yourself.

 

 

FY GDP was 2.2%.
Q4 is reflective of the latest trend, as is the flat retail sales in December.
As is the record amount of personal debt and highet defaul figures on that debt on over a decade.

The private sector is not creating jobs. You can hang on to one month of healthcare as much as you like.
One last time - zero job growth across 2025. An entire year with no jobs created.

Tariffs have been paid by American consumers and American companies. This is also a fact.
They have also done the opposite of what they were meant to do, the trade deficit on goods actually grew bigger. Oh and manufacturing shed jobs every month of the year from April onwards.

[Nutsin]

You mean like fixating on one months job data instead the 12 month direction of travel?
The fundamentals are an entire year with no job growth, muted economic growth and persistent inflation. The thing you are investing all this money in doesn’t create jobs, in fact it takes them.

Watching you try and cling on to any scrap of data is hilarious to watch though.

It’s just a silly argument, you’re so desperate for a win.

Trumps tax cuts kick in this year, remember? 

It takes time to locate and build the plants and factories for new investment to filter through to new jobs, which has just started to show up in the data, right when you’d expect it to. Next you will start to see productivity, then comes the GDP data.

I think anyone with half a brain would understand that.


Instead of being an imbecile that thinks Trump has a magic wand why don’t you just accept that Trumps Tariffs did not bring Stagflation, the sky didn’t fall in and they have brought in huge sums of new investment to the US which is good for US jobs, Billions in Tariff revenue and some very good trade agreements for the US ?

This will bring growth and prosperity to the working class. We will no longer be an economy driven by Fed policy which favors the wealthy and leaves main st struggling and the US at the mercy of China.

You've had a year and have only brought a huge backwards step in jobs and GDP. Inflation has gone up from day 1 of Trumps 2nd term.

You think zero jobs growth, 1.4% GDP and persistent inflation are silly arguments? The opinion polls do not agree with you.

Data centres will not deliver jobs, they will remove jobs. They will deliver growth for the top 10%.
Everyone else faces zero job growth and higher inflation thanks to tariffs. Ther tax cuts are not for them.

170,000 new private payroll jobs is hardly a step backwards. Trumps policies are delivering for the US workers. 

[Nutsin]

You mean like fixating on one months job data instead the 12 month direction of travel?
The fundamentals are an entire year with no job growth, muted economic growth and persistent inflation. The thing you are investing all this money in doesn’t create jobs, in fact it takes them.

Watching you try and cling on to any scrap of data is hilarious to watch though.

It’s just a silly argument, you’re so desperate for a win.

Trumps tax cuts kick in this year, remember? 

It takes time to locate and build the plants and factories for new investment to filter through to new jobs, which has just started to show up in the data, right when you’d expect it to. Next you will start to see productivity, then comes the GDP data.

I think anyone with half a brain would understand that.


Instead of being an imbecile that thinks Trump has a magic wand why don’t you just accept that Trumps Tariffs did not bring Stagflation, the sky didn’t fall in and they have brought in huge sums of new investment to the US which is good for US jobs, Billions in Tariff revenue and some very good trade agreements for the US ?

This will bring growth and prosperity to the working class. We will no longer be an economy driven by Fed policy which favors the wealthy and leaves main st struggling and the US at the mercy of China.

You've had a year and have only brought a huge backwards step in jobs and GDP. Inflation has gone up from day 1 of Trumps 2nd term.

You think zero jobs growth, 1.4% GDP and persistent inflation are silly arguments? The opinion polls do not agree with you.

Data centres will not deliver jobs, they will remove jobs. They will deliver growth for the top 10%.
Everyone else faces zero job growth and higher inflation thanks to tariffs. Ther tax cuts are not for them.

Actually Tariffs were announced in April, trade agreements are still being struck but many are recent. 

So it hasn’t been a year has it.

Again 1.4% includes a Gov’t shutdown and a collapse in Gov’t spending. Funny how you choose to not get into the weeds on that.

Q3 GDP was much higher. 

Jobs are going to the private sector and to Americans, now that Immigration is being tackled wages are going up and rents are starting to drop.

Id say that’s a good thing for the less fortunate wouldn’t you?


Go on I’ll let you have the last word I’m tired of hearing you repeat yourself.

[goose]

 No, it’s because you don’t understand the fundamentals or the technicals. All you do is read the Data and proclaim Armageddon. Fixating on any negative you can find….. Here’s a little secret, there will always be negatives, there is no such thing as a perfect economy.

You mean like fixating on one months job data instead the 12 month direction of travel?
The fundamentals are an entire year with no job growth, muted economic growth and persistent inflation. The thing you are investing all this money in doesn’t create jobs, in fact it takes them.

Watching you try and cling on to any scrap of data is hilarious to watch though.

It’s just a silly argument, you’re so desperate for a win.

Trumps tax cuts kick in this year, remember? 

It takes time to locate and build the plants and factories for new investment to filter through to new jobs, which has just started to show up in the data, right when you’d expect it to. Next you will start to see productivity, then comes the GDP data.

I think anyone with half a brain would understand that.


Instead of being an imbecile that thinks Trump has a magic wand why don’t you just accept that Trumps Tariffs did not bring Stagflation, the sky didn’t fall in and they have brought in huge sums of new investment to the US which is good for US jobs, Billions in Tariff revenue and some very good trade agreements for the US ?

This will bring growth and prosperity to the working class. We will no longer be an economy driven by Fed policy which favors the wealthy and leaves main st struggling and the US at the mercy of China.

You've had a year and have only brought a huge backwards step in jobs and GDP. Inflation has gone up from day 1 of Trumps 2nd term.

You think zero jobs growth, 1.4% GDP and persistent inflation are silly arguments? The opinion polls do not agree with you.

Data centres will not deliver jobs, they will remove jobs. They will deliver growth for the top 10%.
Everyone else faces zero job growth and higher inflation thanks to tariffs. Ther tax cuts are not for them.

[Nutsin]

 

It’s because you don’t understand the difference between a ‘nowcast’ and a forecast, but you decided to shout it all over here as some kind of ‘win’.
Bit embarrassing  but I guess it’s par for the course with you.

Jobs all driven by healthcare & social care. You’re celebrating 1 month after 12 months of zero growth, and celebrating growth in one area which isn’t going to deliver growth.

Trump said he’d half electricity costs straight away……… but then he also said there would be no inflation, no trade deficit and 15% GDP  

 No, it’s because you don’t understand the fundamentals or the technicals. All you do is read the Data and proclaim Armageddon. Fixating on any negative you can find….. Here’s a little secret, there will always be negatives, there is no such thing as a perfect economy.

You mean like fixating on one months job data instead the 12 month direction of travel?
The fundamentals are an entire year with no job growth, muted economic growth and persistent inflation. The thing you are investing all this money in doesn’t create jobs, in fact it takes them.

Watching you try and cling on to any scrap of data is hilarious to watch though.

It’s just a silly argument, you’re so desperate for a win.

Trumps tax cuts kick in this year, remember? 

It takes time to locate and build the plants and factories for new investment to filter through to new jobs, which has just started to show up in the data, right when you’d expect it to. Next you will start to see productivity, then comes the GDP data.

I think anyone with half a brain would understand that.


Instead of being an imbecile that thinks Trump has a magic wand why don’t you just accept that Trumps Tariffs did not bring Stagflation, the sky didn’t fall in and they have brought in huge sums of new investment to the US which is good for US jobs, Billions in Tariff revenue and some very good trade agreements for the US ?

This will bring growth and prosperity to the working class. We will no longer be an economy driven by Fed policy which favors the wealthy and leaves main st struggling and the US at the mercy of China.

[,]

In the USA the top 1% hold a third of the nation’s wealth. The upper decile are getting richer exponentially at the expense of the other 90% it seems.

[goose]

I’d ask the Atlanta Fed about their 5% GDP print.
I just told you about the 170,000 private jobs created. Inflation is way down from the nightmare of Bidenomics.

Halving electricity costs while AI is exploding might take a minute…… Hang in there.

 

It’s because you don’t understand the difference between a ‘nowcast’ and a forecast, but you decided to shout it all over here as some kind of ‘win’.
Bit embarrassing  but I guess it’s par for the course with you.

Jobs all driven by healthcare & social care. You’re celebrating 1 month after 12 months of zero growth, and celebrating growth in one area which isn’t going to deliver growth.

Trump said he’d half electricity costs straight away……… but then he also said there would be no inflation, no trade deficit and 15% GDP  

 No, it’s because you don’t understand the fundamentals or the technicals. All you do is read the Data and proclaim Armageddon. Fixating on any negative you can find….. Here’s a little secret, there will always be negatives, there is no such thing as a perfect economy.

You mean like fixating on one months job data instead the 12 month direction of travel?
The fundamentals are an entire year with no job growth, muted economic growth and persistent inflation. The thing you are investing all this money in doesn’t create jobs, in fact it takes them.

Watching you try and cling on to any scrap of data is hilarious to watch though.

[Nutsin]

Gov spending cost about 0.5% in Q4 and was a conscious and self inflicted decision.
Full year growth of 2% is piss poor.
Zero job growth is even worse. Biden created 1m jobs in 2024.
You don’t need to turn around those job numbers or the GDP growth. What you’ve actually done is make it worse.

Your excuses are hilarious, always someone else’s fault isn’t it?

What happened to 5% GDP? What happened to all the jobs they were creating? What happened to no inflation? Or halving electricity costs?

I’d ask the Atlanta Fed about their 5% GDP print.
I just told you about the 170,000 private jobs created. Inflation is way down from the nightmare of Bidenomics.

Halving electricity costs while AI is exploding might take a minute…… Hang in there.

 

It’s because you don’t understand the difference between a ‘nowcast’ and a forecast, but you decided to shout it all over here as some kind of ‘win’.
Bit embarrassing  but I guess it’s par for the course with you.

Jobs all driven by healthcare & social care. You’re celebrating 1 month after 12 months of zero growth, and celebrating growth in one area which isn’t going to deliver growth.

Trump said he’d half electricity costs straight away……… but then he also said there would be no inflation, no trade deficit and 15% GDP  

 No, it’s because you don’t understand the fundamentals or the technicals. All you do is read the Data and proclaim Armageddon. Fixating on any negative you can find….. Here’s a little secret, there will always be negatives, there is no such thing as a perfect economy.