West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread

[muskie]

Odds slashed from 5/1 to 7/2.

Watch this space.

I think we're fucked.

[fraser]

BrainGone is clearly on a wind-up.

Thinks Earthy is gonna return and score on the final day of the season to keep us up. The fucker can't get a kick in the Championship. 

Very strange considering we're only gonna get a point a game and go down, he's all over the place. 

[Mad Ferret]

BrainGone is clearly on a wind-up.

Thinks Earthy is gonna return and score on the final day of the season to keep us up. The fucker can't get a kick in the Championship. 

[El Scorchio]

I'll spell this out for once again.
WE SCORE AT AN AVERAGE OF 1 GOAL A GAME AND CONCEDE 1 GOAL A GAME THAT IS 1-1

 

That's a completely irrelevant stat and means/tells nothing. It doesn't in any way take into account actual results. You could measure that average over 10 games, lose two of them 5-1 and win the others 1-0 gain 24 points or vice versa and gain 6 points. It by no means whatsoever equates to one point a game.

Also there's somewhat of a gulf in quality between Man City and Borehamwood. It's not a knock on anyone to say the level the youths have been playing at although very impressive is leagues below the premier league. Those youth players the manager sees potential in/use for at this moment are getting a game. Those he doesn't are not. He's used them far more meaningfully in first team action than any other managers in recent history.

Mental isn't it claiming the last 6 games aren't good enough because we've scored 7 and let in 7 and complete ignoring the points we won which is 9 and downgrading them to 6... Then saying that's a point a game so unless we improve we will only gain 8 points... But if we go along at the same pace that's 11 points and enough... Never once said we were gonna finish 9th just that we didn't have to improve on our last 6 games to get more than 8 points. 

He's an absolute fucking retard 

It's definitely cherry picking stats and manipulating them very selectively to fit an agenda, which I don't think really stands up to logic or scrutiny. I'll say that! I don't really understand the beef with Nuno now.

Fair enough when it wasn't going well but we've gotten 15 points from the last nine league games (while playing four of the top six sides in those nine- two of them away) along with three wins in the cup, so it's going well. And while there are always things that could have been better, to be overly critical in the face of that just seems silly. If you're dishing out pelters for what happened up to January, you have to dish out some praise for what's happened since.

[Manuel]

Scraps are on here are really not what they use to be. Can't you find something interesting to QUARREL about?

[Mad Dog]

Is it better for us if sp*rs win sunday or forest

i desperately want the north london cunts to go down but cant see it.  Satan wouldnt allow something that good to happen in my life
a forest win would give them momentum (and 3 vital points) but keep the dream of the cunts going down a possibility
sp*rs winning would drop forest right in it, especially if we win sunday (and their goal diff is closer to ours)


Or is a point a piece the beat result for us?
 

[fraser]

fraser,

No need to be cruel mate.

Just replying in kind ferret son.

[Mad Ferret]

fraser,

No need to be cruel mate.

[fraser]

I'll spell this out for once again.
WE SCORE AT AN AVERAGE OF 1 GOAL A GAME AND CONCEDE 1 GOAL A GAME THAT IS 1-1

 

That's a completely irrelevant stat and means/tells nothing. It doesn't in any way take into account actual results. You could measure that average over 10 games, lose two of them 5-1 and win the others 1-0 gain 24 points or vice versa and gain 6 points. It by no means whatsoever equates to one point a game.

Also there's somewhat of a gulf in quality between Man City and Borehamwood. It's not a knock on anyone to say the level the youths have been playing at although very impressive is leagues below the premier league. Those youth players the manager sees potential in/use for at this moment are getting a game. Those he doesn't are not. He's used them far more meaningfully in first team action than any other managers in recent history.

Mental isn't it claiming the last 6 games aren't good enough because we've scored 7 and let in 7 and complete ignoring the points we won which is 9 and downgrading them to 6... Then saying that's a point a game so unless we improve we will only gain 8 points... But if we go along at the same pace that's 11 points and enough... Never once said we were gonna finish 9th just that we didn't have to improve on our last 6 games to get more than 8 points. 

He's an absolute fucking retard 

[fraser]

Typical of you to have a go at the kids.
The game was a draw 2-2.
We didn't lose the game but if you want that to fit your pathectic agenda go ahead.
The kids put in a performance against a good National League team. As good as the first team against City.They had 2 players go off injured at crucial times and had to bring on 2 even younger players.
What a cսnt you are.
Some have barely played for the U21's this season and you choose to have a go at them.
What a complete and utter wanker you are.

I'll spell this out for once again.
WE SCORE AT AN AVERAGE OF 1 GOAL A GAME AND CONCEDE 1 GOAL A GAME THAT IS 1-1

For you to understnad this it's quite simple.
Villa are 4th because over the course of the season the have acheived the 4th best amount of points on the league.
West Ham are 18th because over the course of the season we have achieved the 18th most points.
By your logic the season should end now and we finish 9th.
What an idiot.

 

No that wasn't my logic my logic is if we go along as we are we will be fine, your logic was we won't because you made up that we're going along at a point a game over the last 6 which we are not. 

I'm also not having a dig at the kids just pointing out that because they do well against other kids doesn't make them better against teams that aren't kids which the result at Boreham wood proves. 

The first team drew at Burton and won after extra time you said that Wilson and some others weren't good enough if they couldn't beat Burton and the kids were better but the kids couldn't beat a team far worse than Burton therefore by your logic they're worse. 

[El Scorchio]

I'll spell this out for once again.
WE SCORE AT AN AVERAGE OF 1 GOAL A GAME AND CONCEDE 1 GOAL A GAME THAT IS 1-1

That's a completely irrelevant stat and means/tells nothing. It doesn't in any way take into account actual results. You could measure that average over 10 games, lose two of them 5-1 and win the others 1-0 gain 24 points or vice versa and gain 6 points. It by no means whatsoever equates to one point a game.

Also there's somewhat of a gulf in quality between Man City and Borehamwood. It's not a knock on anyone to say the level the youths have been playing at although very impressive is leagues below the premier league. Those youth players the manager sees potential in/use for at this moment are getting a game. Those he doesn't are not. He's used them far more meaningfully in first team action than any other managers in recent history.

[Fortunes Hiding]

BoleynGone and lost the plot 

Idiot
cսnt
wanker

all used in ONE post. 

impressive. 

[dealcanvey]

BoleynGone and lost the plot 

[BoleynGone]

Typical of you to have a go at the kids.
The game was a draw 2-2.
We didn't lose the game but if you want that to fit your pathectic agenda go ahead.
The kids put in a performance against a good National League team. As good as the first team against City.They had 2 players go off injured at crucial times and had to bring on 2 even younger players.
What a cսnt you are.
Some have barely played for the U21's this season and you choose to have a go at them.
What a complete and utter wanker you are.

I'll spell this out for once again.
WE SCORE AT AN AVERAGE OF 1 GOAL A GAME AND CONCEDE 1 GOAL A GAME THAT IS 1-1

For you to understnad this it's quite simple.
Villa are 4th because over the course of the season the have acheived the 4th best amount of points on the league.
West Ham are 18th because over the course of the season we have achieved the 18th most points.
By your logic the season should end now and we finish 9th.
What an idiot.
 

[BoleynGone]

No you complete moron.
Take away our 3-1 success against Sunderland and where does that leave us ?
You can't just take away a heavy defeat to fit your agenda,stupid.
 

[Manuel]

I have a feeling Tottenham and Forest will somehow be ok and Leeds will get seriously dragged into it. I think it will ultimately be between Leeds and us and it could well come down to the final game of the season.

It still irks me that Nuno blew the away game at Leeds with his stupid formation and tactics. That defeat could well prove decisive.

For that to happen we will need the Bees to get at least a point there on Saturday.

[Come On You Irons]

I have a feeling Tottenham and Forest will somehow be ok and Leeds will get seriously dragged into it. I think it will ultimately be between Leeds and us and it could well come down to the final game of the season.

It still irks me that Nuno blew the away game at Leeds with his stupid formation and tactics. That defeat could well prove decisive.

[fraser]

Oh and the 1-1 over 8 games doesn't yield only 8 points we could lose 7-0 in one and win the rest 1-0 what absolute shit mental gymnastics to turn our 1 5 points a game into 1 point a game... Take away the Liverpool game then we've scored 5 and let in 2 in 5 games so according to your logic we win the rest of our games based on that. 

[fraser]

No it's not if read what I wrote.
We score 1 goal conceded 1
that's 1-1
I'm being realistic in that I don't think our form is that great.
It's better than it was but it's not relagation saving form.Form stops at the last game. The next game is important.Form changes otherwise the team winning their first games would continue exactly the same.
I'm saying that if we keep up not going for wins we'll end up getting mainly draws. 
When we have attacked more we win or get a good lead. When we go and sit back,like v Chelsea and Bournemouth we end up losing or losing a 2 gaol lead.
Don't know why it's so hard to understand.

We're 11th over those last 6 games above our rivals.. But to you being above them and gaining more points isn't good enough? 

Bournemouth still haven't lost this year in 10 league games so there were 9 other teams that just aren't good enough and against Chelsea we ran out of steam but went 2 up and should have been more.. 1.5 points a game is 57 points over the course of a season it's plenty good enough to avoid relegation if we maintain that.. 2 wins, 3 draws and a loss in the next six will probably keep us up and we will still have 3 games left.. Stop fucking whining.. Or maybe you would prefer kids in the team who weren't good enough to beat Borehamwood... 

[BoleynGone]

No it's not if read what I wrote.
We score 1 goal conceded 1
that's 1-1
I'm being realistic in that I don't think our form is that great.
It's better than it was but it's not relagation saving form.Form stops at the last game. The next game is important.Form changes otherwise the team winning their first games would continue exactly the same.
I'm saying that if we keep up not going for wins we'll end up getting mainly draws. 
When we have attacked more we win or get a good lead. When we go and sit back,like v Chelsea and Bournemouth we end up losing or losing a 2 gaol lead.
Don't know why it's so hard to understand.

[Manuel]

Yeah I'm not convinced they've turned a corner either as they finished 4th in the league stage of that while stinking out the PL. 

But I also think them beating Forest heavily would be the best result for us 

1-0 will do me.

1-0 won't do for me we need to get Forest's GD down to near us or below us.

In an ideal world yes, but believe it's currently only a 2 goal swing. Also, going on percentages, I doubt we will end up on the same points at the end.

[Far Cough UKunt]

Yeah I'm not convinced they've turned a corner either as they finished 4th in the league stage of that while stinking out the PL. 

But I also think them beating Forest heavily would be the best result for us 

1-0 will do me.

1-0 won't do for me we need to get Forest's GD down to near us or below us.

[Manuel]

Yeah I'm not convinced they've turned a corner either as they finished 4th in the league stage of that while stinking out the PL. 

But I also think them beating Forest heavily would be the best result for us 

1-0 will do me.

[fraser]

Yeah I'm not convinced they've turned a corner either as they finished 4th in the league stage of that while stinking out the PL. 

But I also think them beating Forest heavily would be the best result for us, especially if we get something from Villa as it would mean us going into the break safe with one loss in ten and them in the bottom three having not won in eight... Despite BoleynGone's shit maths that's our form much better than theirs and them in a hole which will be hard to get out of. 

[honky cat]

I can't see spurs going down, but to say they've turned a corner after winning last night is a bit of a stretch. That tie was all over last week. 
I still think a draw with forest would be the best result for us, keep everyone in line and then hope we get a run of results after villa. Will we ever beat wolves?

[Westham67]

Spurs look like they have turned corner so Forest should get a hiding