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"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."
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southbankbornnbred
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Just looking at the reported numbers in the Geno Smith deal. Looks like the Jets have paid just above the bare minimum and the Raiders will keep paying him, while taking Mendoza.
So he cost a 6th round pick and NFL minimum wage. It’s not a great move, but if he ends up being back-up then it’s cheap.
So he cost a 6th round pick and NFL minimum wage. It’s not a great move, but if he ends up being back-up then it’s cheap.
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two more....
SF Nick Cross from the Colts, and TE Chig Okwonkwo from the Titans
Adam Peters is cooking
SF Nick Cross from the Colts, and TE Chig Okwonkwo from the Titans
Adam Peters is cooking
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claret on my shirt" wrote: ↑11 Mar 2026, 16:40
Vegas would have kept Crosby if he wasn't broken.
Sorry but this is bullshit, he's 8th year we can't win for a year or two i would guess, So Crosby would be maybe 10th year and starting to decline. So the smart move is/was to cash in now and get as much as we could to enable the rebuild.
If he was available last year, I'm sure we would have tried but there's just too many positions to fill
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I still think he's worth a number one, and possibly a future two or three. A team will take him I'm sure, but I was under the impression those dallas cunts had used up what money they had already on a different defender and the eagles had to let phillips move on because they couldn't afford him
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claret on my shirt
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Vegas would have kept Crosby if he wasn't broken.
Sorry but this is bullshit, he's 8th year we can't win for a year or two i would guess, So Crosby would be maybe 10th year and starting to decline. So the smart move is/was to cash in now and get as much as we could to enable the rebuild.
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they're going to have to keep him as I'm sure no team's matching that ravens offer
hendrickson apparently has reached agreement with the ravens
hendrickson apparently has reached agreement with the ravens
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claret on my shirt
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claret, can you still afford to sign the centre Linderbaum?
Adam Peters isn't mucking around, now signing Patriots OLB/DE K'Lavon Chaisson. All that panicking, the fan base need to apologise. Makes me think they're targeting one specific player at seven, that's multiple weapons now too for our new DC. I'm sure OC Blough will want some help too
Adam Peters isn't mucking around, now signing Patriots OLB/DE K'Lavon Chaisson. All that panicking, the fan base need to apologise. Makes me think they're targeting one specific player at seven, that's multiple weapons now too for our new DC. I'm sure OC Blough will want some help too
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southbankbornnbred
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claret on my shirt" wrote: ↑11 Mar 2026, 12:19 It very much looks the Ravens have fucked us over after backing out of the Crosby trade. They were very aware of his medical situation as was the whole NFL world. His surgeon has said he is ahead of his rehab and expected to play as normal come opening day. Their doctor said he failed the medical, well course he has at this stage he is recvering from an operation as they knew. The Ravens have a history of this as well.
I also wonder how this affects us moving forward, if Crosby is on the block again then no doubt we will get lowballed offer wise (hello Jerry Jones!). If we keep him we have the cap but I guess our FA signings would have been different. I am guessing, but if we now keep Maxx then i would guess we will cancel the offer to DE Kwity Paye. Fuck the Ravens!
As for the Jets, good luck with Gino, i watched every Raider game last year and yes the OL made him look bad , but he also threw some stupid picks and had many chance to throw the balla way instead of getting sacked. So are the Jets with a choice of Gino or Fields tanking to get Manning in next years draft?!
You never know what’s happening behind the scenes, of course. But I genuinely think that Glenn believes he can “win” or make progress with Geno! (Which is a bit bonkers)
After a 3-14 season last year, which flattered us, frankly, Glenn’s neck is on the chopping board next season. He needs to show progress quickly, or the fans will pile out of that stadium faster than tax-dodgers fleeing Dubai’s beaches (too soon?).
It’s possible that Mougey has a longer-term vision. Although it’s hard to know: he’s a bit of a blank stare. But Glenn needs to win now. There’s no point him tanking the 2026 season so that he gets Manning, Moore or Chambliss in the ‘27 draft - because he won’t be the coach if he fails miserably again.
Besides, we have three 1st rounders next year (two this year). We shouldn’t need to tank: we could just offer all three for the #1 pick if we felt we really needed a specific QB.
The entire pre-draft period has passed with little sign that Woody, Mougey and Glenn have got their act into gear. I just hope the three of them have inadvertently stumbled on some good draft choices. Like the proverbial monkeys at a typewriter!
After a 3-14 season last year, which flattered us, frankly, Glenn’s neck is on the chopping board next season. He needs to show progress quickly, or the fans will pile out of that stadium faster than tax-dodgers fleeing Dubai’s beaches (too soon?).
It’s possible that Mougey has a longer-term vision. Although it’s hard to know: he’s a bit of a blank stare. But Glenn needs to win now. There’s no point him tanking the 2026 season so that he gets Manning, Moore or Chambliss in the ‘27 draft - because he won’t be the coach if he fails miserably again.
Besides, we have three 1st rounders next year (two this year). We shouldn’t need to tank: we could just offer all three for the #1 pick if we felt we really needed a specific QB.
The entire pre-draft period has passed with little sign that Woody, Mougey and Glenn have got their act into gear. I just hope the three of them have inadvertently stumbled on some good draft choices. Like the proverbial monkeys at a typewriter!
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claret on my shirt
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It very much looks the Ravens have fucked us over after backing out of the Crosby trade. They were very aware of his medical situation as was the whole NFL world. His surgeon has said he is ahead of his rehab and expected to play as normal come opening day. Their doctor said he failed the medical, well course he has at this stage he is recvering from an operation as they knew. The Ravens have a history of this as well.
I also wonder how this affects us moving forward, if Crosby is on the block again then no doubt we will get lowballed offer wise (hello Jerry Jones!). If we keep him we have the cap but I guess our FA signings would have been different. I am guessing, but if we now keep Maxx then i would guess we will cancel the offer to DE Kwity Paye. Fuck the Ravens!
As for the Jets, good luck with Gino, i watched every Raider game last year and yes the OL made him look bad , but he also threw some stupid picks and had many chance to throw the balla way instead of getting sacked. So are the Jets with a choice of Gino or Fields tanking to get Manning in next years draft?!
I also wonder how this affects us moving forward, if Crosby is on the block again then no doubt we will get lowballed offer wise (hello Jerry Jones!). If we keep him we have the cap but I guess our FA signings would have been different. I am guessing, but if we now keep Maxx then i would guess we will cancel the offer to DE Kwity Paye. Fuck the Ravens!
As for the Jets, good luck with Gino, i watched every Raider game last year and yes the OL made him look bad , but he also threw some stupid picks and had many chance to throw the balla way instead of getting sacked. So are the Jets with a choice of Gino or Fields tanking to get Manning in next years draft?!
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a lot of moaning skins fans (myself included) mid afternoon on monday aternoon, and admittedly unfair criticism of gm adam peters. go forward, almost 48 hours, and he's yet again delivered........
LT Tunsil (new deal signed), DT Tim Settle (drafted by us, and returns on 3 year deal), DE Adafe Oweh (first rounder, from the Chargers) and LB Leo Chenal (25yr old from the Chiefs). some great business there, plus WR Treylon Burks on a permanent deal, and also a depth CB from Detroit
no idea what's wrong with Crosby, but the Ravens cancelling the deal was very strange
LT Tunsil (new deal signed), DT Tim Settle (drafted by us, and returns on 3 year deal), DE Adafe Oweh (first rounder, from the Chargers) and LB Leo Chenal (25yr old from the Chiefs). some great business there, plus WR Treylon Burks on a permanent deal, and also a depth CB from Detroit
no idea what's wrong with Crosby, but the Ravens cancelling the deal was very strange
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southbankbornnbred
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Geno is probably the death knell for Aaron Glenn.
But at least there’s less chance of Glenn wasting premier picks on a QB. I really think, the way we’re heading, we’ll have a new head coach halfway through next season.
Good job we’ve stockpiled three 1st rounders for 2027.
But at least there’s less chance of Glenn wasting premier picks on a QB. I really think, the way we’re heading, we’ll have a new head coach halfway through next season.
Good job we’ve stockpiled three 1st rounders for 2027.
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Final word on the Tua malarkey.
It smells a bit off - and the ramifications are not great for him. My gut feeling is that the Fish know he has a medium or long-term medical issue (he has a history with concussion, of course).
If he had been traded, even in a trade that was not great for the Fish, Miami would have had to disclose relevant medical info to the acquiring team (that's the standard practice in the NFL and it all takes place around the medical/fitness tests).
But if you cut a player, the onus is almost entirely on a potential new employer to do the medical due diligence, and not just fitness tests etc. The former team has no obligation to share info.
I just can't get over the financial sacrifice that the Fish are making to offload a guy who isn't great - sure, he's been over-rated in his career - but who led the league in passing yards in 2023. It doesn't sit right.
This is a QB hungry league and there are loads of poor sides who would have sniffed around even somebody like Tua for an easy trade (thankfully, not the Jets). In those circumstances, if the guy was remotely healthy, Miami should have got a lower-round pick and a trade.
It smells a bit off - and the ramifications are not great for him. My gut feeling is that the Fish know he has a medium or long-term medical issue (he has a history with concussion, of course).
If he had been traded, even in a trade that was not great for the Fish, Miami would have had to disclose relevant medical info to the acquiring team (that's the standard practice in the NFL and it all takes place around the medical/fitness tests).
But if you cut a player, the onus is almost entirely on a potential new employer to do the medical due diligence, and not just fitness tests etc. The former team has no obligation to share info.
I just can't get over the financial sacrifice that the Fish are making to offload a guy who isn't great - sure, he's been over-rated in his career - but who led the league in passing yards in 2023. It doesn't sit right.
This is a QB hungry league and there are loads of poor sides who would have sniffed around even somebody like Tua for an easy trade (thankfully, not the Jets). In those circumstances, if the guy was remotely healthy, Miami should have got a lower-round pick and a trade.
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You never know what's happening behind the scenes, but the Fish didn't seem to try too hard to soften the blow by trading Tua rather than releasing him outright: even if the return was only a late-round pick and required Miami to retain a share of his salary.
Even a bad trade would have shifted at least a chunk of future cash obligations to the acquiring team, leaving the Fish responsible mainly for the remaining signing bonuses. Instead, you're getting walloped for the full dead-cap impact. Almost no mitigation whatsoever.
In a QB hungry league, it's Jets/Cleveland-level stupidity. Welcome to our club - pick up your membership card at the trap door!
Even a bad trade would have shifted at least a chunk of future cash obligations to the acquiring team, leaving the Fish responsible mainly for the remaining signing bonuses. Instead, you're getting walloped for the full dead-cap impact. Almost no mitigation whatsoever.
In a QB hungry league, it's Jets/Cleveland-level stupidity. Welcome to our club - pick up your membership card at the trap door!
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That's an insane cap hit. The Fish are entering Jets territory for madness with that.
I know Tua is not a great QB, but taking the full hit on his salary just two years after massively overpaying him is mental. You're going to be paying for top-class starting talent that you don't have.
Looks like Miami can spread the hit over two seasons after June 1st. But you're still looking at $60m+ of dead cap space this coming season - and $30m+ in 2027. It also makes you vulnerable in trade deals. Which is why even the Jets picked up Fitzpatrick for just a 7th rounder (despite the fact that the Jets have a billion picks: we'd usually lose out in those circumstances, and instead got a bargain).
The Fish will have to draft spectacularly well now, because you'll need good, cheap youngsters. Especially if you pay up for Willis at QB.
I know Tua is not a great QB, but taking the full hit on his salary just two years after massively overpaying him is mental. You're going to be paying for top-class starting talent that you don't have.
Looks like Miami can spread the hit over two seasons after June 1st. But you're still looking at $60m+ of dead cap space this coming season - and $30m+ in 2027. It also makes you vulnerable in trade deals. Which is why even the Jets picked up Fitzpatrick for just a 7th rounder (despite the fact that the Jets have a billion picks: we'd usually lose out in those circumstances, and instead got a bargain).
The Fish will have to draft spectacularly well now, because you'll need good, cheap youngsters. Especially if you pay up for Willis at QB.
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As for the Dolphins. Tua is going to get released for a $99m cap hit.
Ouch.
We're also trading Minkah Fitzpatrick to the Jets for a seventh round draft pick.
Hopefully there will still be a half decent OL or CB on the board.
I very much doubt it though.
Ouch.
We're also trading Minkah Fitzpatrick to the Jets for a seventh round draft pick.
Hopefully there will still be a half decent OL or CB on the board.
I very much doubt it though.
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Frickin' hell - absolutely nothing is going for the Jets in the build-up to the draft, despite having a billion picks!
Now a state judge has ruled that Ole Miss QB Trinidad Chambliss CAN play a sixth year at college next season - so he will stay on, rather than enter the NFL draft. Initially, Chambliss was blocked by the NCAA from returning to college, and it looked like he was going to be late first-rounder or (more likely) and early second-rounder in the 2026 NFL draft.
It sounds like the Jets were looking at him as their development QB, possibly sitting behind an experienced hand like Mariota or Minshew in 2026. We'd already missed out on Dante Moore, the second best QB in the class, because he's going back to college. Now we've missed out on the third best QB at college and somebody who we could easily have landed if his NCAA ban was upheld.
I liked the look of Chambliss. Touch of the (Green Bay) Aaron Rodgers about him.
Absolutely no luck with this shit. Beginning to think the alleged Joe Namath curse is very real!
Attention will now turn to LSU QB Garrett Nussmeier as a potential 2nd or 3rd rounder. Or Alabama's Ty Simpson as a mid first-rounder. Although, rightly or wrongly, the Jets (like some other sides) don't seem to like the look of Simpson right now.
Either way, the #2 pick will be Arvell Reese (LB) or Rueben Bain (DE). We need to put pressure on QBs.
Now a state judge has ruled that Ole Miss QB Trinidad Chambliss CAN play a sixth year at college next season - so he will stay on, rather than enter the NFL draft. Initially, Chambliss was blocked by the NCAA from returning to college, and it looked like he was going to be late first-rounder or (more likely) and early second-rounder in the 2026 NFL draft.
It sounds like the Jets were looking at him as their development QB, possibly sitting behind an experienced hand like Mariota or Minshew in 2026. We'd already missed out on Dante Moore, the second best QB in the class, because he's going back to college. Now we've missed out on the third best QB at college and somebody who we could easily have landed if his NCAA ban was upheld.
I liked the look of Chambliss. Touch of the (Green Bay) Aaron Rodgers about him.
Absolutely no luck with this shit. Beginning to think the alleged Joe Namath curse is very real!
Attention will now turn to LSU QB Garrett Nussmeier as a potential 2nd or 3rd rounder. Or Alabama's Ty Simpson as a mid first-rounder. Although, rightly or wrongly, the Jets (like some other sides) don't seem to like the look of Simpson right now.
Either way, the #2 pick will be Arvell Reese (LB) or Rueben Bain (DE). We need to put pressure on QBs.
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