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Council Scum
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Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑13 Nov 2025, 17:03 Bernard Hopkins has recently said that at his peak, no one in history would've beat Roy Jones Jnr.
Some compliment from an all time great, that.
He's a step down from Calzaghe, Massive Attack will happily tell you.
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Bernard Hopkins has recently said that at his peak, no one in history would've beat Roy Jones Jnr.
Some compliment from an all time great, that.
Some compliment from an all time great, that.
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Anyone on here like "lady's" boxing? Personally I don't think women should be allowed to do any sport involving fighting, Apart from, of course, wrestling in mud.
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Council Scum" wrote: ↑13 Nov 2025, 11:09Dewitt wasn't much of a fighter though. Hopkins, Nunn, McCallum, Toney, Jones Jnr, all were the best about back then, Benn fought none of them.BerlingtonBertie wrote: ↑13 Nov 2025, 05:12 Eubank Snr has always been and always will be a cսnt in my book. Granted a hard tough cսnt, but had the worst and least valued belt at the time, WBO and never left the UK to fight abroad from my recollection.
Benn fought anyone, anywhere in their backyard. Was superb in the States when he done DeWitt.
Was intrigued about this so been doing some googling. Not sure if true but apparently -
"Benn's fight with McClellan wasn't initially on the cards. The promoter first offered Michael Nunn as an opponent but wanted Benn to take a $100,000 pay cut. When Benn refused, he got an ultimatum: fight Nunn or face a "mini-Mike Tyson" in McClellan."
"Just before the Eubank-Benn rematch in 1993. Toney held the IBF super middleweight title, which he'd defended twice in the U.S. before facing Roy Jones Jr. in 1994. Obviously he lost that fight, and afterwards he moved up to light heavyweight (and beyond).
Both Eubank and Benn stayed at super middleweight after their second fight so having a weight disparity plus the barrier of finding a compelling reason to cross the Atlantic for a fight seemingly prevented them from ever fighting Toney."
Couldn't find too much re Benn vJones Jnr
"Benn's fight with McClellan wasn't initially on the cards. The promoter first offered Michael Nunn as an opponent but wanted Benn to take a $100,000 pay cut. When Benn refused, he got an ultimatum: fight Nunn or face a "mini-Mike Tyson" in McClellan."
"Just before the Eubank-Benn rematch in 1993. Toney held the IBF super middleweight title, which he'd defended twice in the U.S. before facing Roy Jones Jr. in 1994. Obviously he lost that fight, and afterwards he moved up to light heavyweight (and beyond).
Both Eubank and Benn stayed at super middleweight after their second fight so having a weight disparity plus the barrier of finding a compelling reason to cross the Atlantic for a fight seemingly prevented them from ever fighting Toney."
Couldn't find too much re Benn vJones Jnr
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Dewitt wasn't much of a fighter though. Hopkins, Nunn, McCallum, Toney, Jones Jnr, all were the best about back then, Benn fought none of them.BerlingtonBertie wrote: ↑13 Nov 2025, 05:12 Eubank Snr has always been and always will be a cսnt in my book. Granted a hard tough cսnt, but had the worst and least valued belt at the time, WBO and never left the UK to fight abroad from my recollection.
Benn fought anyone, anywhere in their backyard. Was superb in the States when he done DeWitt.
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bertie, his first few pro fights (four rounders) were in america but I agree, he never went over at his peak and took on the best
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Eubank Snr has always been and always will be a cսnt in my book. Granted a hard tough cսnt, but had the worst and least valued belt at the time, WBO and never left the UK to fight abroad from my recollection.
Benn fought anyone, anywhere in their backyard. Was superb in the States when he done DeWitt.
Benn fought anyone, anywhere in their backyard. Was superb in the States when he done DeWitt.
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Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑12 Nov 2025, 11:40 I've never, ever liked Eubank.
That interview just confirms everything I think of him.
I never liked Chris, but then I never liked Benn, neither of them are particularly nice people, but I did love watching Benn fight.
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I watched a documentary last night on the Eubanks
It was mostly set around the build up to the first Benn fight where Chris snr was adamant that his son would be risking his life by boiling down to the lower weight of 11 6.
They stopped talking until he decided to show up to support his son on the day
As for making the weight he was correct as Chris junior ended up in hospital for three days after severely dehydrated.
The dynamic overall seems to be love hate with the boy having to live up to his dad's name and his old man pretty much taking over and speaking for him earlier in his career before jnr decided to put distance between them and be his own man.
It was mostly set around the build up to the first Benn fight where Chris snr was adamant that his son would be risking his life by boiling down to the lower weight of 11 6.
They stopped talking until he decided to show up to support his son on the day
As for making the weight he was correct as Chris junior ended up in hospital for three days after severely dehydrated.
The dynamic overall seems to be love hate with the boy having to live up to his dad's name and his old man pretty much taking over and speaking for him earlier in his career before jnr decided to put distance between them and be his own man.
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Monsieur merde de cheval" wrote: ↑03 Nov 2025, 00:25Massive Attack" wrote: ↑21 Oct 2025, 08:22Monsieur merde de cheval" wrote: ↑21 Oct 2025, 03:34I was still serving in 1990 when the Benn/Eubank pre fight was in full swing.
Benn served in the RRF and fought in the Army boxing team ..i was on remedial SWIMMING and Benn was using military bases for fitness ..courtesy of the Army Boxing Team..
His taste in music was dog shit...and a bit of a pillock .
But that's the Army...if you excel at any sport you get away with anythingMy uncle knew him an all whilst also serving and being based out in Germany back in those times.Your Uncle was in RRF in 1990.?...Paderborn?...they had 3 battalions back then...now down to 1.
one of the battalions was in NI back then...not sure which one
He was stationed out in northern Ireland during the 80s as well as served out in Bosnia later on whilst based in West Germany a lot of the time think osnabruck. Come out warrant officer in the end and still keeps his nose in doing some work down at larkhill and tidworth.
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Massive Attack" wrote: ↑21 Oct 2025, 08:22Monsieur merde de cheval" wrote: ↑21 Oct 2025, 03:34Council Scum" wrote: ↑20 Oct 2025, 12:47You'll find most fighters did back then, most of the 80's top fighters were on coke.I was still serving in 1990 when the Benn/Eubank pre fight was in full swing.
Benn served in the RRF and fought in the Army boxing team ..i was on remedial SWIMMING and Benn was using military bases for fitness ..courtesy of the Army Boxing Team..
His taste in music was dog shit...and a bit of a pillock .
But that's the Army...if you excel at any sport you get away with anythingMy uncle knew him an all whilst also serving and being based out in Germany back in those times.
Your Uncle was in RRF in 1990.?...Paderborn?...they had 3 battalions back then...now down to 1.
one of the battalions was in NI back then...not sure which one
one of the battalions was in NI back then...not sure which one
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Council Scum" wrote: ↑27 Oct 2025, 15:54Gary Strodders shank" wrote: ↑27 Oct 2025, 12:06 I only just realised Mitchell Smith won a European belt on the undercard Saturday.
I know Mitchell and his family and watched him develop into a fine prospect at super featherweight before it all went to his head and he ended getting banged up
Every time he tells the story of his subsequent weight gain he seems to add a stone or two and it's now eighteen and a half stone now but nonetheless to lose that weight and get back to challenging for titles is pretty remarkable.
At 32 he has little time to lose and needs to get down to superfeather again as he is to small for a lightweight but if he can hold it together could well be in some entertaining fights going forward.
A showman who leaves it all in the ring.
Was a decent fight as it goes, probably a little to early for Arnie, who I've watched a bit under Martin, but he didn't disgrace himself at all.
Yeah it was decent and both came out of it with credit
I think Mitchell maybe got into Dawson's head a bit too.
He (Mitchell) took the fight he says at ten days notice and had only been sparring for six or eight rounders so didn't know whether he could go the distance.
A few days prior to getting the offer he was talking about quitting as he was only being offered journeymen on small hall shows and not making any money.
He is now calling out Josh Warrington again ten years or so after originally dubbing him feather fists.
One career soared to great heights whilst the other nosedived spectacularly mostly through a total lack of self discipline.
I think Mitchell maybe got into Dawson's head a bit too.
He (Mitchell) took the fight he says at ten days notice and had only been sparring for six or eight rounders so didn't know whether he could go the distance.
A few days prior to getting the offer he was talking about quitting as he was only being offered journeymen on small hall shows and not making any money.
He is now calling out Josh Warrington again ten years or so after originally dubbing him feather fists.
One career soared to great heights whilst the other nosedived spectacularly mostly through a total lack of self discipline.
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Gary Strodders shank" wrote: ↑27 Oct 2025, 12:06 I only just realised Mitchell Smith won a European belt on the undercard Saturday.
I know Mitchell and his family and watched him develop into a fine prospect at super featherweight before it all went to his head and he ended getting banged up
Every time he tells the story of his subsequent weight gain he seems to add a stone or two and it's now eighteen and a half stone now but nonetheless to lose that weight and get back to challenging for titles is pretty remarkable.
At 32 he has little time to lose and needs to get down to superfeather again as he is to small for a lightweight but if he can hold it together could well be in some entertaining fights going forward.
A showman who leaves it all in the ring.
Was a decent fight as it goes, probably a little to early for Arnie, who I've watched a bit under Martin, but he didn't disgrace himself at all.
