US Politics Thread

[stubbo-admin]

Seems like the main politics thread is becoming a Yankee-Doodle Trump-fest, so maybe scope here to split them out.

Will see if this one gains any traction ..if it does will move over a few of the million posts from our two protagonists from the other thread.

Yee-haaa!

[Massive Attack]

Depends on how we want to define Regime change exactly, I suppose.. 

Bit out of order comparing Trump to Hitler 

Good one.

[goose]

Depends on how we want to define Regime change exactly, I suppose. Taking out at least 47 of their top cunts, including the main man himself whilst also leaving his incumbent half dead son that makes Stephen Hawkings look more alive, is fairly significant Regime change in itself. Sure, I get it isn't the entire kit and kaboodle (yet) but give it a bit of time eh, it's still only been 16 cunting days since the first bomb was dropped in anger. Hitler/Nazis took 6 years.

Problem for Trump is time. Another couple of weeks of this and it becomes more than a short term shock.

Bit out of order comparing Trump to Hitler 

[Massive Attack]

Depends on how we want to define Regime change exactly, I suppose. Taking out at least 47 of their top cunts, including the main man himself whilst also leaving his incumbent half dead son that makes Stephen Hawkings look more alive, is fairly significant Regime change in itself. Sure, I get it isn't the entire kit and kaboodle (yet) but give it a bit of time eh, it's still only been 16 cunting days since the first bomb was dropped in anger. Hitler/Nazis took 6 years.

[goose]

First off Bombing Iran is about stopping these lunatics from developing a nuclear bomb. They insisted on enriching Uranium to weapons grade. The US offered them free nuclear energy forever and they refused it.

So Bombingvthe shot out of their facilities absolutely works in delaying their ambitions.

As for more refugees they’re coming anyway you dope.

As for them not liking us I don’t think anyone on this planet other than you perhaps cares. It’s not as if they are gonna change their hatred any time soon you idiot. The hate is real and it will remain wether we bomb Iran or not.

You really are too stupid to take seriously.

Kids and women are getting raped and attacked all over the country, you can criticize Trump and his war but don’t you dare criticize Islam or Starmer.

You’re being invaded and you’re criticizing the only person on this planet that is standing up for you. There’s a term for people like you, it’s fucking Idiot!

So why not just bomb the nuclear facilities then? Like last time when they were obliterated and put them back decades.

This will obviously cause more refugees, you can't moan about refugees and then actively create more refugees. It is constant US meddling in the ME that has caused untold issues over the last couple of decades.

Takes a huge amount of mental gymnastics to turn an objection to an illegal war being about immigration, bravo on that one.
What happened to that regime changed you said was coming at the weekend? All those people you claimed were out on the streets?

i look forward to another post of deflection and whataboutism.

Your lack of foresight is truly unbelievable.

They did bomb their nuclear facilities they also bombed their missile launchers and air defense systems and radar, Gee I wonder why they would have done that?

They also went after the regimes top officials and cleaned up that mess. Gee I wonder why they would have done that?

Niw they are trying to get the good people of Iran to stand up for their freedoms and bring about lasting change. Gee I wonder why they would that?

In the mean time they will continue to hit their ability to fight back but preserve their oil refineries and wells as to not disrupt oil supply. Gee I wonder why they would do that?

If for whatever reason the Persians turn in to Brits and do nothing to stop the evil of Islam then my guess is the US will send in troops to finish off the regime. Gee I wonder why they would do that?


Yeah it will be messy and yeah there will be issues that arise from it but at the end of the day they will not get a Nuke. That is what fucking matters you immense Mong!

 

 

Lack of foresight like entering this war without realising that Iran would weaponise energy, and then being forced into begging for help to sort it?

So far they have just replaced like for like. No regime change despite how many dupes you fall for on twitter.

by the way, so far the US/Israel have destroyed oil facilities in Tehran, Karaj and Aghdadieh.

What religion do you suppose Persians are? Are you gonna change the religion of Iran now as well?

[nerd2]

Nutsin you do know this is Shia muslims and pretty much doing the work for the Arab Muslims the Shiites like the US did In Yemen , forcing fuel prices sky high ... Your Noncey boss loves the rich Arabs and they bring Sharia law , but offer Tax free havens for the Rich but invest loads in West as we all know  , yet turn a blind eye to there hardcore Qurans and terrorist schools due the Bitter lakes agreement . Iran is nothing more than an easy target , this is not an attack on the real bad muslims !

[Nutsin]

You’re such a drama queen.

Is bombing the shit out of Iran somehow standing up to the Islamic invasion? Do you think there will be more or less refugees after this?

And all the people in Iran that have seen their country destroyed, do you think they will suddenly have a greater love for the US after this? Or do you think the region will be even more anti US/Israel? How many US embassies have been attacked so far by locals?

I think criticism of an illegal war is fair game.

First off Bombing Iran is about stopping these lunatics from developing a nuclear bomb. They insisted on enriching Uranium to weapons grade. The US offered them free nuclear energy forever and they refused it.

So Bombingvthe shot out of their facilities absolutely works in delaying their ambitions.

As for more refugees they’re coming anyway you dope.

As for them not liking us I don’t think anyone on this planet other than you perhaps cares. It’s not as if they are gonna change their hatred any time soon you idiot. The hate is real and it will remain wether we bomb Iran or not.

You really are too stupid to take seriously.

Kids and women are getting raped and attacked all over the country, you can criticize Trump and his war but don’t you dare criticize Islam or Starmer.

You’re being invaded and you’re criticizing the only person on this planet that is standing up for you. There’s a term for people like you, it’s fucking Idiot!

So why not just bomb the nuclear facilities then? Like last time when they were obliterated and put them back decades.

This will obviously cause more refugees, you can't moan about refugees and then actively create more refugees. It is constant US meddling in the ME that has caused untold issues over the last couple of decades.

Takes a huge amount of mental gymnastics to turn an objection to an illegal war being about immigration, bravo on that one.
What happened to that regime changed you said was coming at the weekend? All those people you claimed were out on the streets?

i look forward to another post of deflection and whataboutism.

Your lack of foresight is truly unbelievable.

They did bomb their nuclear facilities they also bombed their missile launchers and air defense systems and radar, Gee I wonder why they would have done that?

They also went after the regimes top officials and cleaned up that mess. Gee I wonder why they would have done that?

Niw they are trying to get the good people of Iran to stand up for their freedoms and bring about lasting change. Gee I wonder why they would that?

In the mean time they will continue to hit their ability to fight back but preserve their oil refineries and wells as to not disrupt oil supply. Gee I wonder why they would do that?

If for whatever reason the Persians turn in to Brits and do nothing to stop the evil of Islam then my guess is the US will send in troops to finish off the regime. Gee I wonder why they would do that?


Yeah it will be messy and yeah there will be issues that arise from it but at the end of the day they will not get a Nuke. That is what fucking matters you immense Mong!

[Massive Attack]

Trump stepped up with a Bold and courageous move to take out the Iranian regime. He could have easily rode out the next 7 months for the mid terms instead he did what is right for man kind.

Starmer the Muslim obviously won’t go along the cսnt, no surprise there. You better hope you don’t need the USA ‘s help with Russia any time soon.

Trump is the only one who is standing up against the Islamic invasion (although Japan has caught on and Italy are starting to catch a clue too) and all you wankers can do is criticize.

You truly do deserve everything that is coming your way.

And it wasn’t be pretty.

You’re such a drama queen.

Is bombingvthe shot out of Iran somehow standing up to the Islamic invasion?   

So Bombingvthe shot out of their facilities 

 

 

[goose]

Trump stepped up with a Bold and courageous move to take out the Iranian regime. He could have easily rode out the next 7 months for the mid terms instead he did what is right for man kind.

Starmer the Muslim obviously won’t go along the cսnt, no surprise there. You better hope you don’t need the USA ‘s help with Russia any time soon.

Trump is the only one who is standing up against the Islamic invasion (although Japan has caught on and Italy are starting to catch a clue too) and all you wankers can do is criticize.

You truly do deserve everything that is coming your way.

And it wasn’t be pretty.

You’re such a drama queen.

Is bombing the shit out of Iran somehow standing up to the Islamic invasion? Do you think there will be more or less refugees after this?

And all the people in Iran that have seen their country destroyed, do you think they will suddenly have a greater love for the US after this? Or do you think the region will be even more anti US/Israel? How many US embassies have been attacked so far by locals?

I think criticism of an illegal war is fair game.

First off Bombing Iran is about stopping these lunatics from developing a nuclear bomb. They insisted on enriching Uranium to weapons grade. The US offered them free nuclear energy forever and they refused it.

So Bombingvthe shot out of their facilities absolutely works in delaying their ambitions.

As for more refugees they’re coming anyway you dope.

As for them not liking us I don’t think anyone on this planet other than you perhaps cares. It’s not as if they are gonna change their hatred any time soon you idiot. The hate is real and it will remain wether we bomb Iran or not.

You really are too stupid to take seriously.

Kids and women are getting raped and attacked all over the country, you can criticize Trump and his war but don’t you dare criticize Islam or Starmer.

You’re being invaded and you’re criticizing the only person on this planet that is standing up for you. There’s a term for people like you, it’s fucking Idiot!

So why not just bomb the nuclear facilities then? Like last time when they were obliterated and put them back decades.

This will obviously cause more refugees, you can't moan about refugees and then actively create more refugees. It is constant US meddling in the ME that has caused untold issues over the last couple of decades.

Takes a huge amount of mental gymnastics to turn an objection to an illegal war being about immigration, bravo on that one.
What happened to that regime changed you said was coming at the weekend? All those people you claimed were out on the streets?

i look forward to another post of deflection and whataboutism.

[Nutsin]

He's taken one of them out already - what has changed? nothing.

No sign of regime change and the poor people of Iran have had their country bombed to shit, the infrastructure destroyed and the economy ruined. How have they benefitted?

Trump stepped up with a Bold and courageous move to take out the Iranian regime. He could have easily rode out the next 7 months for the mid terms instead he did what is right for man kind.

Starmer the Muslim obviously won’t go along the cսnt, no surprise there. You better hope you don’t need the USA ‘s help with Russia any time soon.

Trump is the only one who is standing up against the Islamic invasion (although Japan has caught on and Italy are starting to catch a clue too) and all you wankers can do is criticize.

You truly do deserve everything that is coming your way.

And it wasn’t be pretty.

You’re such a drama queen.

Is bombing the shit out of Iran somehow standing up to the Islamic invasion? Do you think there will be more or less refugees after this?

And all the people in Iran that have seen their country destroyed, do you think they will suddenly have a greater love for the US after this? Or do you think the region will be even more anti US/Israel? How many US embassies have been attacked so far by locals?

I think criticism of an illegal war is fair game.

First off Bombing Iran is about stopping these lunatics from developing a nuclear bomb. They insisted on enriching Uranium to weapons grade. The US offered them free nuclear energy forever and they refused it.

So Bombingvthe shot out of their facilities absolutely works in delaying their ambitions.

As for more refugees they’re coming anyway you dope.

As for them not liking us I don’t think anyone on this planet other than you perhaps cares. It’s not as if they are gonna change their hatred any time soon you idiot. The hate is real and it will remain wether we bomb Iran or not.

You really are too stupid to take seriously.

Kids and women are getting raped and attacked all over the country, you can criticize Trump and his war but don’t you dare criticize Islam or Starmer.

You’re being invaded and you’re criticizing the only person on this planet that is standing up for you. There’s a term for people like you, it’s fucking Idiot!

[goose]

 

Let's forget about your stupid unrealistic comments about signing up or me being nonce zźzzźzzźźzzz 
No one on here here is going to be physically or realistically involved in this Iran war
But I'm gonna back Trump on this one as l think the mad mullahs seriously do need taking out 

He's taken one of them out already - what has changed? nothing.

No sign of regime change and the poor people of Iran have had their country bombed to shit, the infrastructure destroyed and the economy ruined. How have they benefitted?

Trump stepped up with a Bold and courageous move to take out the Iranian regime. He could have easily rode out the next 7 months for the mid terms instead he did what is right for man kind.

Starmer the Muslim obviously won’t go along the cսnt, no surprise there. You better hope you don’t need the USA ‘s help with Russia any time soon.

Trump is the only one who is standing up against the Islamic invasion (although Japan has caught on and Italy are starting to catch a clue too) and all you wankers can do is criticize.

You truly do deserve everything that is coming your way.

And it wasn’t be pretty.

You’re such a drama queen.

Is bombing the shit out of Iran somehow standing up to the Islamic invasion? Do you think there will be more or less refugees after this?

And all the people in Iran that have seen their country destroyed, do you think they will suddenly have a greater love for the US after this? Or do you think the region will be even more anti US/Israel? How many US embassies have been attacked so far by locals?

I think criticism of an illegal war is fair game.

[Nutsin]

When are you signing up to go fight joyo? Or are you still finding excuses?
Happy for others to risk their life for you though aren't you.

 

Let's forget about your stupid unrealistic comments about signing up or me being nonce zźzzźzzźźzzz 
No one on here here is going to be physically or realistically involved in this Iran war
But I'm gonna back Trump on this one as l think the mad mullahs seriously do need taking out 

He's taken one of them out already - what has changed? nothing.

No sign of regime change and the poor people of Iran have had their country bombed to shit, the infrastructure destroyed and the economy ruined. How have they benefitted?

Trump stepped up with a Bold and courageous move to take out the Iranian regime. He could have easily rode out the next 7 months for the mid terms instead he did what is right for man kind.

Starmer the Muslim obviously won’t go along the cսnt, no surprise there. You better hope you don’t need the USA ‘s help with Russia any time soon.

Trump is the only one who is standing up against the Islamic invasion (although Japan has caught on and Italy are starting to catch a clue too) and all you wankers can do is criticize.

You truly do deserve everything that is coming your way.

And it wasn’t be pretty.

[goose]

Bottlejob view and oh why is anyone surprised the Mad Mullahs mouthpiece goosestep says that
Not a massive fan of Trump but he may just get this one right,going to give him credit for showing massive bottle and risk here
Islam is the biggest danger to the planet backed by the loony left 

When are you signing up to go fight joyo? Or are you still finding excuses?
Happy for others to risk their life for you though aren't you.

 

Let's forget about your stupid unrealistic comments about signing up or me being nonce zźzzźzzźźzzz 
No one on here here is going to be physically or realistically involved in this Iran war
But I'm gonna back Trump on this one as l think the mad mullahs seriously do need taking out 

He's taken one of them out already - what has changed? nothing.

No sign of regime change and the poor people of Iran have had their country bombed to shit, the infrastructure destroyed and the economy ruined. How have they benefitted?

[XKhammer]

I’d be thrilled if he turned around and went home right away, especially as he’s already won.

But that’s not happening.

Instead he’s threatening & bullying allies to help him unfuck the oil route he decided to fuck up.

Bottlejob view and oh why is anyone surprised the Mad Mullahs mouthpiece goosestep says that
Not a massive fan of Trump but he may just get this one right,going to give him credit for showing massive bottle and risk here
Islam is the biggest danger to the planet backed by the loony left 

When are you signing up to go fight joyo? Or are you still finding excuses?
Happy for others to risk their life for you though aren't you.

 

 

Let's forget about your stupid unrealistic comments about signing up or me being nonce zźzzźzzźźzzz 
No one on here here is going to be physically or realistically involved in this Iran war
But I'm gonna back Trump on this one as l think the mad mullahs seriously do need taking out 

[Nutsin]

I’d be thrilled if he turned around and went home right away, especially as he’s already won.

But that’s not happening.

Instead he’s threatening & bullying allies to help him unfuck the oil route he decided to fuck up.

Bottlejob view and oh why is anyone surprised the Mad Mullahs mouthpiece goosestep says that
Not a massive fan of Trump but he may just get this one right,going to give him credit for showing massive bottle and risk here
Islam is the biggest danger to the planet backed by the loony left 

When are you signing up to go fight joyo? Or are you still finding excuses?
Happy for others to risk their life for you though aren't you.

I agree with Joyo Islam is the biggest threat to the planet and it is backed by the left.

Do you disagree ?

[goose]

I’d be thrilled if he turned around and went home right away, especially as he’s already won.

But that’s not happening.

Instead he’s threatening & bullying allies to help him unfuck the oil route he decided to fuck up.

Bottlejob view and oh why is anyone surprised the Mad Mullahs mouthpiece goosestep says that
Not a massive fan of Trump but he may just get this one right,going to give him credit for showing massive bottle and risk here
Islam is the biggest danger to the planet backed by the loony left 

When are you signing up to go fight joyo? Or are you still finding excuses?
Happy for others to risk their life for you though aren't you.

[XKhammer]

I’d be thrilled if he turned around and went home right away, especially as he’s already won.

But that’s not happening.

Instead he’s threatening & bullying allies to help him unfuck the oil route he decided to fuck up.

Bottlejob view and oh why is anyone surprised the Mad Mullahs mouthpiece goosestep says that
Not a massive fan of Trump but he may just get this one right,going to give him credit for showing massive bottle and risk here
Islam is the biggest danger to the planet backed by the loony left 

[zebthecat]

NATO is a defensive alliance.
Netanyahu and Trump decided to set the middle east on fire without a plan or consultation and it is up to them and them alone to work out how to put that fire out.

[El Scorchio]

The only thing pissing me off is him trying to threaten and blackmail us and other nations into joining in something he started unilaterally on Netanyahus say so without apparently understanding or anticipating the wider consequences, because now he needs help. 

As for how well it’s going, who knows. I don’t believe basically a word either side says about it. 

[goose]

I’d be thrilled if he turned around and went home right away, especially as he’s already won.

But that’s not happening.

Instead he’s threatening & bullying allies to help him unfuck the oil route he decided to fuck up.

[Massive Attack]

There's going to be a lot of pissed off people should Trump manage to pull this Iran war off. (Only 16 days in)

[WHU(Exeter)]

The Nez Perce campaign

its almost as if 150 years of history have taught them nothing.

[Westham67]

The US don't learn. Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq and now Iran, The " Regime change" could only be done the minority Kurds which would about as palatable with the Iranians as would be with the Brits if we had a minorities regime change , The Shah of Iran was a dictator There is no democracy in that region Kings or Emirs for a reason look at what happened when Saddam got "Regime changed" ISIS got hold of some oil and the money that goes with

Iran have motorboats and jet skis with passengers carrying RPGs firing at ships they can permanently hold up ships the straits of Hormuz until such time the bombings and missiles stop

[Westham67]

Iran want out and the US say no apparently. Meanwhile the US warns its citizens' to leave Iraq, That's not a typo IRAQ

[Far Cough UKunt]

More like Inspector* Clouseau than Frank Spencer.

*CHIEF Inspector

[El Scorchio]

OK, a relatively simple question, I think, is that now looking like a gigantic fuck up from the orange bloke? The great US cap in hand asking for help. FMOB.

Which we should not give.
This is Trump's fuck up and he should own it without endangering any other nation's armed forces.
It is within his power, I hope,.to stop it before it gets any worse.
This whole thing, plainly, has not been thought through at all.and USA has is being lead by the nose by Benjamin Netayahu and his radical cronies.

Agree. I think he’d just walk away today leaving a horrific mess for the whole region to clean up claiming a victory if he could, however hollow and phyrric, but he can’t do it until his master tells him he can.