Bowen is past it

[Mad Ferret]

What on earth has happened to him.

Absolutely shocking once again today. Do feel like he’s past it at this point.

[twoleftfeet]

I remember when this was a West Ham fans forum. 

That’s what I thought I was joining until someone started a Spurs thread.

not a lot confuses me these days but……

I was just doing you a favour ladysmith, keeping a thread open for you, ferret, maverick, COYI etc etc 

[El Scorchio]

What makes me laugh is how the game wanks itself silly over how wonderful Saka is, who does the same job as Bowen. And yet he has a worse goal making rate than Bowen even though he has the luxury of playing for Arsenal surrounded by quality fighting for top honours (but failing *smirk*), whilst Bowen has to put up with the dross he is surrounded with by comparison. 

You picked up both players and plonked them in to the other set-up, Bowen would blow Sakas numbers out the water. 

Have some of that for some much needed perspective.

Agree. Saka also gets their penalties.

[Council Scum]

I remember when this was a West Ham fans forum. 

That’s what I thought I was joining until someone started a Spurs thread.

not a lot confuses me these days but……

Apart from your other log in 

[Massive Attack]

What makes me laugh is how the game wanks itself silly over how wonderful Saka is, who does the same job as Bowen. And yet he has a worse goal making rate than Bowen even though he has the luxury of playing for Arsenal surrounded by quality fighting for top honours (but failing *smirk*), whilst Bowen has to put up with the dross he is surrounded with by comparison. 

You picked up both players and plonked them in to the other set-up, Bowen would blow Sakas numbers out the water. 

Have some of that for some much needed perspective.

[El Scorchio]

Ladysmith

[Bartle Boy]

I remember when this was a West Ham fans forum. 

That’s what I thought I was joining until someone started a Spurs thread.

not a lot confuses me these days but……

[twoleftfeet]

I remember when this was a West Ham fans forum. 

[Mad Ferret]

He will either be playing for us or Spurs next season depending on who stays up.

i expect that the shirt he will be wearing will be claret and blue 

Maybe he'll go to Villa, seeing as he's such a big fan.

[Bartle Boy]

Who?

[Swiss.]

A massive wind up post by a Spurs and people are taking it seriously. 

[Bartle Boy]

He will either be playing for us or Spurs next season depending on who stays up.

i expect that the shirt he will be wearing will be claret and blue 

[Massive Attack]

10 goals - 7 assists from 34 games in all comps (1 in 2 G.I. rate which is decent) in a struggling Team, still the same frustrated player. So lucky to have him. He was poor Saturday though. 

I'd still sooner have boy wonder in our Team every week than anything Spurs churn out up front in their Team. He will at some point turn it right on when we need it most.

[Mad Ferret]

Definitely lost a yard of pace. No longer effective enough on the wing.

Can see him reuniting with Moyes at Everton, who'll then play him at CF for the remainder of his career.

I think he's done at West Ham after this season, for sure.

[Nick QQQ2]

Bowen isn't "past it" or anything even close to it.

He's playing in a poor West Ham side, with some massive holes in it, and under a manager who parks the bus about 40 yards away from where one of our best players is most effective.

Nuno has made us more competitive (results-wise) than Potter and Lopetegui. But it has come at the expense of some players not getting the ball as often as they'd like in areas where they are most effective. What's happened to Bowen is the result of that trade-off.

Nuno - and, more importantly, the other players - have to do more to feed Bowen in areas where he's more effective. And he certainly needs Summerville's pace back in the side with him, as that helps him get forward quicker and means defenders defend deeper against us.

 

Not sure I agree with that. He’s getting as much of the ball as with previous managers, he’s just getting found out more these days.  Most teams double up on him and he has definitely lost a yard of pace which means he is beating his man less now.  But some to call him out as a poor player is ridiculous.  He does an excellent job defensively and generally does more than Taty and Pablo and looks more dangerous than both.

[Bartle Boy]

Was our worst player yesterday, besides Potts.

You have hit on something there......A different surname and the same player he would be playing St James Park.......Exeter City.

[Mad Ferret]

Was our worst player yesterday, besides Potts.

[southbankbornnbred]

Bowen isn't "past it" or anything even close to it.

He's playing in a poor West Ham side, with some massive holes in it, and under a manager who parks the bus about 40 yards away from where one of our best players is most effective.

Nuno has made us more competitive (results-wise) than Potter and Lopetegui. But it has come at the expense of some players not getting the ball as often as they'd like in areas where they are most effective. What's happened to Bowen is the result of that trade-off.

Nuno - and, more importantly, the other players - have to do more to feed Bowen in areas where he's more effective. And he certainly needs Summerville's pace back in the side with him, as that helps him get forward quicker and means defenders defend deeper against us.

[zico]

Can't believe anyone is blaming him alone for their goal.  Yes he lost the ball near their penalty area, they are 100 odd yards away from our goal, you could easily blame any of 10 other players for not doing their job.  Fine he didn't have a great game, it happens, others played far worse.

[Massive Attack]

Hopefully we get rid if we stay up or not.

Preferably to a foreign side.

Simons, Muani or Tudor?

[Mad Ferret]

Hopefully we get rid if we stay up or not.

Preferably to a foreign side.

[nychammer]

I don't think he wants to be here and has his sights elsewhere for a last hurrah at the top level as he moves past his prime, but I also think he's a model pro and not a sulker, there's no attitude he just did not hit his usual form this season. Maybe controversial, but we need to sell him I think.

[COOL HAND LUKE]

Mad Ferret » 22 Mar 2026 15:44

Yes... you can't run with the ball on your left foot if the defender is that side too... there is always the danger he will just stick a foot in and block it away from you, which is what happened.

You know the rest...  

[Far Cough UKunt]

Ferret well at least your Spurs won, oh wait....

[Figgieham1]

I’ll own up when they first got him I thought he was a right donkey but he has grown into possibly their best player. He’s had some nasty head knocks as well putting himself on the line. 

[Mad Ferret]

All thanks to Bowen losing the ball.